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Lawnmower- dies after running for 2 seconds
Posted on 2/12/25 at 7:20 pm
Posted on 2/12/25 at 7:20 pm
First use since October. Stored with Non-ethanol gas with Sta-bil. Toro push mower with Briggs and Stratton engine. Started right up and ran for about 5 minutes then died. Now when I try and start the mower it runs for 2 seconds then dies again.
I assume this is a fuel issue and drained the tank and installed new fuel. My next step is the remove the carburetor and clean the jets etc. I will also replace the spark plug.
The mower is 8 years old and has always ran good up to this point. If this doesn't fix the issue I'm not sure what else to look for, and will assume time for a new one. Any suggestions would be appreciated...
I assume this is a fuel issue and drained the tank and installed new fuel. My next step is the remove the carburetor and clean the jets etc. I will also replace the spark plug.
The mower is 8 years old and has always ran good up to this point. If this doesn't fix the issue I'm not sure what else to look for, and will assume time for a new one. Any suggestions would be appreciated...
Posted on 2/12/25 at 7:25 pm to justjoe906
Carburetor is my guess also. I hate dealing with carbs. The fact it starts somewhat confirms it's getting spark but when is the last time you did a tune up. New spark plug and fresh air filter? Air and spark seem the easiest of the three. Fuel is where I lose my ability to diagnose.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 7:45 pm to justjoe906
Mechanic in a bottle and follow directions for small engines, great stuff
A good dose of Seafoam always does well too
Other than that just order a whole new carburetor, easier to replace than rebuild
A good dose of Seafoam always does well too
Other than that just order a whole new carburetor, easier to replace than rebuild
Posted on 2/12/25 at 7:46 pm to justjoe906
What type of choke does it have? Honda has a wax choke that fails and has similar symptoms.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 8:59 pm to justjoe906
I T sounds like a fuel problem to me as well. Have you changed any fuel filters in the system? Blow back into the tank through the fuel line in case there is some kind of screen stopped up in the bottom of the tank. Also, check to ensure you don’t have a stopped up tank vent.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:35 pm to justjoe906
Is it gravity fed or does it have a fuel pump?
Is the fuel valve fully on?
Most small engines you can take the bowl off without removing the carburator. Sounds like yours has a stuck float. Take the bowl off, don't tear the bowl gasket, go ballistic with some carb cleaner on everything, reassemble.
Stuck floats are super common after extended storage. Some TCW3 in the fuel (1oz per 5 gallons) the last time you run it before storing will help prevent it.
Is the fuel valve fully on?
Most small engines you can take the bowl off without removing the carburator. Sounds like yours has a stuck float. Take the bowl off, don't tear the bowl gasket, go ballistic with some carb cleaner on everything, reassemble.
Stuck floats are super common after extended storage. Some TCW3 in the fuel (1oz per 5 gallons) the last time you run it before storing will help prevent it.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 6:47 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I had that problem when I had a gas mower. After some figuring out all I needed was a new gas cap. Air must get through the cap or gas won't flow right from tank. If you have another gas engine somewhere try that cap on the mower - or try one from a friend. Might be a cheap and easy fix.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 7:30 am to Bayou
Just running it with the cap off with diagnose that issue.
Carburetors are stupidly simple. For anyone who doesn't already know, spend some time researching how it works. That will make troubleshooting a Carbureted small engine easy.
Carburetors are stupidly simple. For anyone who doesn't already know, spend some time researching how it works. That will make troubleshooting a Carbureted small engine easy.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 7:40 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I damn near religiously only use non ethanol in my yard equipment. My 2 gallon can lasts me a couple months during the mowing season between my blower, weed eater, trimmer, lawn mower etc.
I had a similar issue where my Hondamower would start up briefly and then die. Ended up being 2-3 teaspoons of water in the carb. No clue how it got there. It hadn’t been running great for a couple weeks, and then finally would barely start then die.
Really easy fix, I drained my carb and the removed all the gas and started over. Thing ran like a champ after that.
I’m honestly thinking I left the gas cap off either my mower or gas tank and either the sprinklers or rain got in one of them. I’m not sure.
I had a similar issue where my Hondamower would start up briefly and then die. Ended up being 2-3 teaspoons of water in the carb. No clue how it got there. It hadn’t been running great for a couple weeks, and then finally would barely start then die.
Really easy fix, I drained my carb and the removed all the gas and started over. Thing ran like a champ after that.
I’m honestly thinking I left the gas cap off either my mower or gas tank and either the sprinklers or rain got in one of them. I’m not sure.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 7:57 am to justjoe906
I don't know why people think that just because it's non-ethanol gas, that it won't cause problems if left in the equipment for weeks or months on end. Even heavily treated with fuel stabilizer, the fuel that in the carburetor is exposed to air as is turning to varnish and going stale to the point of causing problems. Using non-e gas means you might avoid some of the corrosion issues with moisture getting pulled into the fuel and causing phase separation but you'll still have other issues. Best thing you can do is pull the float bowl, drain out all of the bad gas, refill with fresh, give it a shot of starter fluid, and hope it pulls enough fresh gas to flush out what's in the carb circuits. Don't go crazy with carb cleaners if you Toro is unfortunate enough to have one of the PoS B&S plastic carburetor engines, you will hurt them beyond easy repair.
Also, don't use Seafoam until you can get the engine to run on fresh gas and never use it as a fuel treatment in an engine that is going to sit. See people here all the time talk about using it and non-ethanol gas, which is dumb because alcohol (isopropyl) is a major ingredient in Seafoam.
Also, don't use Seafoam until you can get the engine to run on fresh gas and never use it as a fuel treatment in an engine that is going to sit. See people here all the time talk about using it and non-ethanol gas, which is dumb because alcohol (isopropyl) is a major ingredient in Seafoam.
This post was edited on 2/13/25 at 8:02 am
Posted on 2/13/25 at 8:49 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Yes, you're right. Carbs are an easy system and the culprit of most small engine problems.
I have 11 machines that have carbureted small engines. I picked up an ultrasonic cleaner a year or two ago and it saves me some good time and hassle.
I have 11 machines that have carbureted small engines. I picked up an ultrasonic cleaner a year or two ago and it saves me some good time and hassle.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 10:17 am to Clames
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don't use Seafoam until you can get the engine to run on fresh gas and never use it as a fuel treatment in an engine that is going to sit. See people here all the time talk about using it and non-ethanol gas, which is dumb because alcohol (isopropyl) is a major ingredient in Seafoam.
All this
Posted on 2/13/25 at 11:44 am to justjoe906
Pull your air filter off and try to crank it.
If it's running for a second then quits there is a chance it's isn't getting enough air.
Just something to check before you tear into the carb.
If it's running for a second then quits there is a chance it's isn't getting enough air.
Just something to check before you tear into the carb.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 12:28 pm to justjoe906
You've already gotten good advice.
Until recently, I had the same or very similar Toro. 90% of it's few problems were carburetor related. But, I never replaced or rebuilt one.
Stopping after a few short minutes may be a stuck choke. I had a broken spring. Your 2-second stop sounds more like a fuel flow problem. I had dirt or water in the bowl almost once a season.
Remove and clean the bowl. There should be a hex-head fitting at the bottom, just unscrew and the bowl can be pulled down/off. Take care with gaskets, they may be cracked. After draining gas tank, let the tank fully dry. Leave in the sun with the top off for a while then blow out. Replace the fuel line and in-line filter.
Before deciding to keep or replace, have the engine compression checked. If low, replace.
Until recently, I had the same or very similar Toro. 90% of it's few problems were carburetor related. But, I never replaced or rebuilt one.
Stopping after a few short minutes may be a stuck choke. I had a broken spring. Your 2-second stop sounds more like a fuel flow problem. I had dirt or water in the bowl almost once a season.
Remove and clean the bowl. There should be a hex-head fitting at the bottom, just unscrew and the bowl can be pulled down/off. Take care with gaskets, they may be cracked. After draining gas tank, let the tank fully dry. Leave in the sun with the top off for a while then blow out. Replace the fuel line and in-line filter.
Before deciding to keep or replace, have the engine compression checked. If low, replace.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 1:52 pm to bbvdd
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Pull your air filter off and try to crank it.
Our neighborhood is slowly transitioning with younger couples moving in. One guy asked me to help him with his Honda mower having the same issue as described by OP. I took his air filter cover off and that damn thing was clogged like I'd never seen one clogged before. He cuts his own grass but can't mechanic for shite.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 2:41 pm to Harlan County USA
Lots of carburetor removal denial syndrome up in here 

Posted on 2/13/25 at 3:07 pm to justjoe906
You’ve gotten the most common problems advice.
Also check the oil level. Some small engines have a safety kill if your oil is low.
Also check the oil level. Some small engines have a safety kill if your oil is low.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 3:09 pm to Sheepdog1833
it's the spark plug.
you're welcome.
you're welcome.
Posted on 2/14/25 at 9:50 pm to justjoe906
Don’t leave gas in tank during winter months
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