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re: Chlorine pool cloudy

Posted on 5/30/23 at 12:46 pm to
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
2259 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 12:46 pm to
A lot of sand issues can be resolved by opening the filter and doing a deep clean, letting the dirty water overflow the open top. Just have to remove the multiport valve and piping connections on top, so you must have threaded couplings on the piping.
Posted by Baers Foot
Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns
Member since Dec 2011
3872 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 1:00 pm to
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Do you think there is a big difference in the 2?


Based on my online research and speaking to pool supplier and an unrelated pool service company, I believe there is. Also eye-test between the two (I had initially purchased quikcrete).

Yea, you can either brush daily or run your polaris.

If you're noticing pool sand on the floor of your pool, you could have a broken lateral in your filter. If you decide to change your sand one day, you would be able to check your laterals.
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
17679 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 2:01 pm to
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you can either brush daily or run your polaris

Yeah, I need to fix the Polaris soon, I'm tired of brushing.
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If you're noticing pool sand on the floor of your pool, you could have a broken lateral in your filter

It's not sand, more like dust when you brush it, I'm assuming it's dead algae or something.
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
12702 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 3:38 pm to
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This post was edited on 1/28/25 at 5:37 pm
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
17679 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 3:48 pm to
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A lot of sand issues can be resolved by opening the filter and doing a deep clean, letting the dirty water overflow the open top. Just have to remove the multiport valve and piping connections on top, so you must have threaded couplings on the piping.


Tell me more...just take the multiport off and run the pump or wash out with a waterhose?
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
2259 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:26 am to
I rigged up a length of 1/2” pvc that I can attach a water hose to. Just need something rigid to get your water down to the bottom of the filter. I think over time the sand can get clumped or hardened so that your backwash doesn’t truly wash all the sand. This fixes all that. I’d highly recommend it before going to the trouble of replacing sand.

I did a standard backwash and then tried this “deep clean” and got a ton more dirt out.

Here’s a YouTube video of the same process.

LINK
This post was edited on 5/31/23 at 9:27 am
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
17679 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:26 pm to
Thanks. I never even heard of this until yesterday, I'll definitely be doing it this weekend.
Posted by Farmtiger
West "By God" Monroe
Member since Dec 2003
2968 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:03 pm to
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It's more than likely dead algae.


I had a ton of that. I flocked mine yesterday and vacuumed to waste today and my pool is clear finally.
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
9528 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 9:43 am to
Have had my pool for three years now and this is the first year I had to battle algae. I was low on calcium and phosphates. I got it balanced again and it is back to crystal clear blue after battling it for about two weeks. I ran my pool vacuum and sprayed it out everyday and backwashed the sand filter every other day.
Posted by Farmtiger
West "By God" Monroe
Member since Dec 2003
2968 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:32 am to
Man I’ve been battling this for over a month. I feel your pain. My 3rd year also, first time dealing with algae with this pool. It’s been hell. Flocked and I’ve vacuumed to waste twice and about to do it again today. Will add water back and backwash my filter. Let it circulate and then take readings after a few hours to figure out what my levels are. I was about ready to fill it in and put up basketball goals
This post was edited on 6/1/23 at 10:33 am
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
22081 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 6:18 am to
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CYA was at 70 PPM on the 26th before I added the pool juice 911, acid, and shock.



This is your problem. You have stabilizer lock. You need to lower the stabilizer level so the chlorine can actually function. Drain and replace water. Stop using trichlor tablets to chlorinate your pool.
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
6937 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 7:11 am to
Don't drain ALL of the water. 0 CYA is almost as good as 100 CYA. You need it around 30-50. At most, drain half of your pool and refill it if you wish. It should be a relatively linear reduction of CYA. If you drain half your pool, your CYA should drop by half. Personally, I don't think 70 is high enough to cause the chlorine to not release. It's high, but not high enough to create a perpetual cloudiness problem. Needs to be addressed sooner than later either way. My $.02 is something filtration related.

You don't need to add anything to your pool other than chlorine, soda ash or muratic acid. I'm not a hard core TFP fanatic. But some of their concepts have merit, and some I think are just overcomplicating the process. Sticking with these three chemicals is one of the things I stick with.

Taking your water to Leslie's or a swimming pool store for testing is a quick way to blow a few hundred bucks on stuff you don't need.

Get the 2006 test kit and take the readings on PH, Chlorine and CYA. The test kit he posted is the correct Taylor kit. That test kit gives you the CYA test. I don't believe the Test kit 100 will. I'd be curious what the CYA reading from that kit is. I had very wild swings in CYA readings from the pool store.

OP, if you want to get the test kit, I don't mind talking to you over the phone to explain how to use the test kit. It took a little time reading and understanding the instructions that came with it when I first got it.
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
2259 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 7:51 am to
My Taylor test kit recommends CYA from 60-90. Typically I have the clearest water when I keep CYA in that range. This year, I’ve struggled with the some persistent cloudiness
Posted by nolanola
Member since Nov 2010
7635 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 8:00 am to
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This is your problem. You have stabilizer lock.


He doesn’t have stabilizer lock at 70.
Posted by Farmtiger
West "By God" Monroe
Member since Dec 2003
2968 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 4:15 pm to
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Drain and replace water.


I have a 40k gallon pool, I’m not draining my pool.

My problem is resolved. The bottom line was I didn’t get it clean from the winter and I let my chlorine lapse so I fought a ton of algae. That’s all resolved with flock and vacuuming to waste. It’s now clear and my levels are all good. I had to add calcium.

I learned a lesson, keep it clean and keep my chlorine going.

I have a 2006 coming Monday

Thanks for everyone’s feedback.
Posted by Mizooag94
Hillbillyville, MO
Member since Sep 2018
1641 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 4:28 pm to
Year nine with a TFP. New liner this year but last year I spent a whopping 150 bucks on chemicals. Salt water. Listen to the TFP advice. Every year it looks like this, 5 minutes ago, never had to slam.

Posted by DukeSilver
Member since Jan 2014
2930 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 4:35 pm to
Are yall using household chemical branded bleach and baking soda and stuff or the pool store chemicals?
Posted by Mizooag94
Hillbillyville, MO
Member since Sep 2018
1641 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 4:46 pm to
Chlorine: Walmart
CYA: Walmart
HCl(muriatic acid): Hardware store
Besides salt and borax that's all I use. If you have a concrete pool I'm pretty sure you need Ca high. Look at TFP.
Posted by Farmtiger
West "By God" Monroe
Member since Dec 2003
2968 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 4:59 pm to
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Are yall using household chemical branded bleach and baking soda and stuff or the pool store chemicals?


I buy everything from the pool store as of today.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91326 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 5:01 pm to
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Are yall using household chemical branded bleach and baking soda and stuff or the pool store chemicals?


costco
- 3" clorox brand tabs
- 24 pk clorox shock
- arm & hammer baking soda


thats all that ever goes into my pool and the CYA never gets too high so i don't bother with liquid chlorine.
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