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re: centipede to bermuda plan... (updated with pics)

Posted on 3/30/24 at 9:45 pm to
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/30/24 at 9:45 pm to
I don’t have to live there to know that Bermuda grows wonderfully in northern Georgia. I don’t live in Michigan but I know they drive better on snow that people in Texas
Posted by mjp504
Member since Sep 2012
27 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 10:27 am to
Additional question about this process (from St Aug to Bermuda)
I found this thread a week or so ago and like the idea. My backyard is in shambles, especially after the drought. A lot of that Aug perished. Nevertheless, and like an idiot, I did the weed and feed for st Aug bonus S about 3 weeks ago. Now I’m wishing I hadn’t. I always had a little bit of naturally occurring Bermuda in the yard but this year, since the st Aug has been struggling, the Bermuda is really taking over.

Given that I’ve stupidly applied this bonus S, is there anything I can do to promote the Bermuda, and can I overseed with it now? Or am I SOL for a while?
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18903 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:47 am to
How big is the common Bermuda area?

It looks like Bonus S main active ingredient is Atrazine, which harms Bermuda. Have you noticed any yellowing? If not, I’d say you can push growth.

Push growth by mowing at 1” every 2-3 days and throwing down 46-0-0 fertilizer every 2-4 weeks.
Put down 1 lb of nitrogen per thousand sq ft per month for maximum growth.

You can try seeding Bermuda in about three months. There will be plenty of time for it to take off. Though, whatever you seed might look a bit different than what you have now.
Posted by mjp504
Member since Sep 2012
27 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 12:32 pm to
I’d say the common Bermuda represents about half of the yard, and in some places, it’s the only grass growing. Other areas you can see it beginning to establish along with what’s left over of the st Aug and other weeds.

There is some spotty yellowing but not everywhere.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18903 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 1:37 pm to
Sounds like you may have a Bermuda lawn by the end of summer. Congrats, and welcome to the club.

I got mine the same way last year. I’ve found pushing it along most enjoyable.
Posted by NfamousPanda
Central
Member since Jan 2016
786 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 6:38 pm to
Jumping in here (thanks to bb88 suggestion)

I moved in here in 2019. There were two large trees on one half the lawn and the grass was St Aug. Half the yard was full sun and half was full shade. The drought last year demolished the St Aug. I just couldnt keep up with watering it enough. And weeds just took over and choked out a ton of the grass. Also due to the drought, theres old tree roots and stumps that I guess were previously cut and ground up that have started coming to the surface.

I hit the whole yard with celsius a month ago, so all the weeds are dead. and its just grass (st aug and bermuda) and dirt)

I had the two bigs tree cut down a couple weeks ago. So now I've got a full sun yard. But saying the yard is unlevel is an vast understatement. I really need to level the whole thing. And I think its too much to just add masonry sand in the low spots. Theres some bad high spots as well.

So here's what I'm thinking.

-I've got access to a tractor with a rotary tiller on the back.
-Run the tiller over the whole thing and try to level it as best I can
-Get some Hancock LaPrima and hit the yard with it and pray for the best

Thoughts?





This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 6:44 pm
Posted by Tifway419
Member since Sep 2022
821 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 6:55 pm to
quote:

like an idiot, I did the weed and feed for st Aug bonus S about 3 weeks ago. Now I’m wishing I hadn’t.
You’re not an idiot, and no need to worry. If half of your lawn is Bermuda, it will bounce back.
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6182 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 7:21 pm to
If you can till that up and level it then that is what I would do. The seed changes so fast. First it was Princess 77, then Arden 15, then LaPrima, then Laprima XD, and last year Royal TXD. I see Royal TXD is out of stock and LaPrima is on sale. Makes me think that something else is about to come down the pipleline.
Posted by NfamousPanda
Central
Member since Jan 2016
786 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 8:32 pm to
Yeah I'm not set on LaPrima. Just some type of bermuda from Hancock.
Posted by LSUTIGERTAILG8ER
Chance of Rain....NEVER!!
Member since Nov 2007
1743 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 1:36 pm to
Update:

spread 30-0-4 yesterday.

Figured to 1lb of Nitrogen per 1K sq ft

picked up enought to do the backyard also
(not aerated or seeded)

supposed to rain today/tomorrow

WALMART 30-0-4

This post was edited on 4/9/24 at 1:37 pm
Posted by RetiredSaintsLsuFan
NW Arkansas
Member since Jun 2020
1577 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 5:49 am to
That is similar to the Sta-Green Performance Max that I put on my bermuda last year and it worked great.

Half of my lawn was sodded with bermuda and the other half was fescue seed. I have been trying to overseed the fescue with bermuda with limited results. Maybe I need better seed than what Lowes sells.
This post was edited on 4/10/24 at 5:56 am
Posted by jmtigers
1826.71 miles from USC
Member since Sep 2003
4970 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 9:32 am to
quote:

NfamousPanda


One of my neighbors just resodded his lawn. One guy knocked it out in a morning and laid the new sod the next day. He used a sod cutter, a ditch witch stand on skid steer, and a trailer.
Posted by jmtigers
1826.71 miles from USC
Member since Sep 2003
4970 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 9:38 am to
quote:

Just some type of bermuda from Hancock.


I overseeded some common with Royal Bengal last year. Worth considering. It came up quickly. It's still a little leggy but hopefully it gets better this season. Has a pretty fine leaf texture and decent color.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
98836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
39901 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 12:50 pm to
So the initial work is done....

1- 24D on 3/25 (windy AF, but it looks like a good bit of it made it to the weeds)

2- Aerated 4/10

3- Seed Lesco Pyramid 2 + 13-13-13 mix on 4/11

Here's what it looks like before anything takes root.

Any suggestions for next few weeks? Just water daily and how often to cut?

Should I wait a week or two for my first cut?




This post was edited on 4/15/24 at 12:53 pm
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6182 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 1:28 pm to
Don't let the seed dry out.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18903 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 3:36 pm to
quote:

3- Seed Lesco Pyramid 2 + 13-13-13 mix on 4/11

How did you spread it and how did you land on Lesco for seed?
I'm considering renovating my front yard in the middle of summer.
This post was edited on 4/15/24 at 3:37 pm
Posted by Bayou
CenLA
Member since Feb 2005
36797 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 3:50 pm to
quote:

I don’t live in Michigan but I know they drive better on snow that people in Texas

But they claim Detroit while you claim Dallas.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
98836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
39901 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 4:33 pm to
I used the Scott’s walk behind spreader and mix the seed in the fertilizer together.

I got the Lesco seed just because that’s what SiteOne had in Mandeville.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
40110 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 12:35 pm to
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Push growth by mowing at 1” every 2-3 days and throwing down 46-0-0 fertilizer every 2-4 weeks. Put down 1 lb of nitrogen per thousand sq ft per month for maximum growth.


Tell me if I am doing this math correctly. Say I bought 50-0-0 (just for discussion sake). If I have an area I am working on of 3000 square feet, I would buy/use 6 pounds of that fertilizer bag every 2-4 weeks? Do I have that right? Thanks
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18903 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 3:45 pm to
Yes, 6 lbs of 50-0-0 would theoretically be 3 lbs of nitrogen.
Spreading that across 3k sq ft would be 1 lb per thousand.

So do that once a month, or do 3 lbs twice/month (theoretically).

20.5-0-0 AMS is on sale at Lowe’s by the way.
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