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re: centipede to bermuda plan... (updated with pics)

Posted on 2/18/24 at 9:42 pm to
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18862 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 9:42 pm to
It’s only a weed if it’s unwanted.
Some people desire a clover or even a dichondra lawn. Others go with carpet grass

But most southern golf course and sports fields choose Bermuda.

Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
3788 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

But I have torpedo.........so I'm considering going to Bermuda just to use the only thing that kills it without killing the grass.

You can use Quinclorac in Zoysia as well.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125376 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 4:54 pm to
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I ordered 25lbs of common bermuda seed coated and unhulled from Hancock seed.


What type of common Bermuda

I’m looking at potentially making that switch but want to get one of the top varieties of common Bermuda
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6161 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 8:00 pm to
Royal TXD is currently the king of common
Posted by bkhrph
Lake Charles
Member since May 2022
163 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 10:11 am to
It probably would’ve been better to order a “named” Bermuda instead of common, even if it would’ve cost more. That’s the only critique I would’ve offered if you asked before you ordered. But that’s already been ordered.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125376 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 6:46 pm to
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Royal TXD is currently the king of common



Thats what ive read as well

Posted by Longfella
Member since Feb 2024
2 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 6:24 pm to
First time poster so appreciate any help.
I’m committed to the centipede to Bermuda transition as well but I think I messed up by spraying the Cleggs winter cocktail this weekend not realizing it was also a pre-emergent. My plan was to core aerate in 3-4 weeks, then top dress and seed but now I’m wondering if should core aerate now in hopes to disrupt the pre emergent effect and then top dress/seed in 3-4 weeks. Does that make sense? Or should I wait to do all of it in about 6 weeks?
Posted by Tifway419
Member since Sep 2022
808 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 7:13 pm to
I’m familiar with Clegg’s cocktail, but only from this board and don’t have experience with it.

My initial thought would be that the plant / grass would quickly die after the seed germinates because of the Altrazine. So you would have to wait until mid/late June to seed unless you brought in a new layer of dirt. That would still give you plenty time for the new turf to establish itself.

Studies have shown that aeration won’t have an effect on the pre emergent.
Posted by King George
Member since Dec 2013
5353 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 11:40 am to
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Bookmarked this thread.

Need to kill my entire yard and start over.

Me too. Moved into a new neighborhood last year and my yard is a gross salad of weeds with no recognizable species of grass. Decided I was going nuclear this spring so I'm ingesting every bit of info I can find because I don't know squat about grass.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81581 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 1:20 pm to
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You picked the right grass type to move away from and towards
This is always shocking to me.
Posted by Geauxtac260
Member since Aug 2016
206 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 3:12 pm to
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This is always shocking to me.


Do you NOT recommend bermuda? I have a terrible centipede yard that I’m also strongly considering transitioning to bermuda. Reasons why I shouldn’t?

Also, what’s everyone using for top dressing? Lady at Cleggs is telling me river silt.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18862 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 3:37 pm to
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Lady at Cleggs is telling me river silt.
NOOOO!!! There's about 50% chance it'll contain torpedo grass or torpedo grass seeds.

Use play/construction/masonry sand only. Many will recommend adding compost, but this is unecessary ($$).

Bermuda is a superior grass to Centipede, but requires higher maintenance. It's for lawn lovers. Definitely not for everyone.
This post was edited on 2/27/24 at 3:50 pm
Posted by Ziggy
Member since Oct 2007
21501 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 4:08 pm to
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Also, what’s everyone using for top dressing? Lady at Cleggs is telling me river silt.


Not no but HELL no. Mason sand.
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6161 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 4:16 pm to
If you have full sun it’s 100% perfect for Bermuda. It is the far superior grass. I don’t say that because I like it. I like it because it’s superior. It is the best with foot traffic, dog pee, drought, and heat. It is the most chemical tolerant and the highest forgiveness.

You should have slapped that lady in the mouth for wanting to give you torpedo grass.
Posted by Geauxtac260
Member since Aug 2016
206 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 4:48 pm to
Haha ok noted…river silt is NOT the way.

I’ve been fighting crabgrass as long as I can remember, and I’m tired of missing my pre-emergent window and then fighting this stuff all summer. Every summer it’s the same story…backyard turns to a weed jungle and God forbid I miss a week on cutting it!

I like the idea of bermuda bc I can spray for other weeds (crabgrass!) and keep my lawn.

Add on the two dogs, and now the boys playing baseball all summer, I just think this will be better for me.

Is the Pennington bermuda seed at Home Depot crap?

Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6161 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 5:01 pm to
Hancock seed. Royal TXD, La prima or La prima xd
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125376 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 6:08 pm to
My local tractor supply had a bag of the 25lb PanAm from Barenbrug for only $70

I almost pulled the trigger on it.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81581 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:43 pm to
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Reasons why I shouldn’t?
Look at what it takes to keep it up and make sure you're up for it.
Posted by Tifway419
Member since Sep 2022
808 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 11:04 pm to
I don’t find Bermuda requires much more maintenance. You also don’t have to worry much about disease, drought, and fungus.

If you hate mowing, use a growth regulator. Or don’t feed as much, it’ll be fine.

Don’t feed centipede enough, it’ll die. Feed centipede too much, it’ll die. Feed centipede just the right amount, it’ll die. You get the point. Have fun with the extra maintenance trying to constantly fix a dying lawn.
Posted by hookfin
Member since Sep 2021
74 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 12:09 am to
Tifway (or anyone)

Hijack a little… I have an area that’s about 1300 sq ft of centipede that I want to tear up and resod with empire zoysia. Problem is I just put down pre emergent on that centipede this week. How big of a problem is this. Should I wait?
This post was edited on 2/28/24 at 12:10 am
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