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re: centipede to bermuda plan... (updated with pics)

Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:48 pm to
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:48 pm to
I’ve got about 15-18k sf to do. Unfortunately sod is not in my budget rn.

Just had half of the yard regraded, so it’s pretty much all dirt for half of it anyway.
Posted by ronk
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 7:00 am to
If you've got no real grass to save then you can hit it with glyphosate. Anything mixed in with grass I'd use msm.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 10:28 am to
Got msm on the way.

There are parts where the hydro seeded Bermuda from last year took decently well.

I think my plan is msm Sunday. Scalp mid week, seed next weekend.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 3/26/24 at 4:54 pm to
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Got msm on the way.


Alright, so I chickened out after reading and youtubing stuff about MSM and was afraid I'd kill a 50' oak tree in my backyard by now regulating properly...

...so I put down 2-4D in the wind gusts yesterday and gonna see how it goes.
Posted by ronk
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Posted on 3/26/24 at 6:34 pm to
MSM won’t kill your massive oaks.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 3/26/24 at 9:07 pm to
Thanks Ronk! I chickened out anyway. But good to know for later in the year.

It was so windy yesterday, and watching a video I had, the guy basically said if you’re dialed in, that’s great, but if you’re overlapping too much as in too much wind, you’re doubling the amount of chemical around the tree and could kill it.
This post was edited on 3/26/24 at 9:08 pm
Posted by Tifway419
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Posted on 3/27/24 at 10:20 am to
I wouldn’t spray anything in high winds, but it’s pretty impossible to spray with no wind at all. If you’re concerned about overspray on trees, garden, etc., use a cardboard box to act as a barrier when spraying near those plants and trees.

It helps if you can get your wife or kid to help by holding the box
Posted by bayoubengals88
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Posted on 3/27/24 at 12:56 pm to
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(Update) scalped the yard as low as deck would allow and aerated early Friday 3/15/24 morning before the rain. I was able to spread 50lbs of 13-13-13 and 25 lbs of bermuda seed between rain
12 days, any green?
Posted by LSUTIGERTAILG8ER
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Posted on 3/27/24 at 3:17 pm to
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12 days, any green?


the overall yard is greening up. a combination of that time of year , plenty of sticker weeds, (i did not put out any pre-emerge) and remaining centipede.

I will try to photo some of the bare areas to see if what is sprouting is the new bermuda seed.

my plan is to not cut for like 3 weeks and hopefully the new seed will take over with time

Posted by LSUTIGERTAILG8ER
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Posted on 3/28/24 at 9:49 am to
Pics from 3/27. scalped, aerated, and seeded and fertilized on 3/15.
honestly I cant tell much yet. Maybe yall can tell me more. is that new bermuda maybe in that bare spot pic? with the rain, moist soil, ive only had to run the sprinklers a couple times. is the overnight 40-50s temps keeping seeds at bay? let me know yalls thoughts. and one pic really shows weeds







Posted by bayoubengals88
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Posted on 3/28/24 at 10:01 am to
It looks like you've already got a lot of common bermuda.
I do think the temps have affected your overseeding efforts.

It'll be interesting to see the extent of the color variation between the bermuda that you already have and what will be growing from seed.

Your last pick has a ton of winter weeds that should burn off in time. Is that just a rough part of your yard? The other pics look much better.
Posted by LSUTIGERTAILG8ER
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Posted on 3/28/24 at 10:13 am to
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Your last pick has a ton of winter weeds that should burn off in time. Is that just a rough part of your yard?


yes that side has the most weeds for whatever reason.

So the lowest my mower deck drops is 1.5" (when I scalped).

At 3 weeks after seeding, when I plan to mow again, what height should I cut at? maintain?

Ive been used to cutting high (3-3.5") to keep the centipede from burning up, but I want to promote the bermuda.
Posted by bayoubengals88
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Posted on 3/28/24 at 10:19 am to
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At 3 weeks after seeding, when I plan to mow again, what height should I cut at? maintain?

Standard practice is one notch above scalp level.

Since my lowest setting is 1.5" as well, I think I'm going to hit my Bermuda soon with a string trimmer and then maintain 1.5" for the season.

quote:

Ive been used to cutting high (3-3.5") to keep the centipede from burning up, but I want to promote the bermuda.

Yeah, you'll have no problem doing that, especially if it gets a bit dry and especially if you keep feeding it nitrogen. The centipede won't hold up to it and the bermuda will love it.

How do you cut bermuda on lowest rotary setting (someone basically just asked your exact question).
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
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Posted on 3/28/24 at 7:43 pm to
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centipede to bermuda


Why?
I grew up in Houston and the centipede or St Aug (never knew the difference) grew like a weed. Got very thick and lush. Cool to walk on and sturdy.

Here in Ga nothing grows worth crap consistently.
That’s why I have a no grass yard. Haha
Posted by bayoubengals88
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Posted on 3/29/24 at 8:18 am to
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I grew up in Houston and the centipede or St Aug (never knew the difference) grew like a weed. Got very thick and lush. Cool to walk on and sturdy.


There are essentially four southern turf grasses. It’s a fact of life that centipede is the lowest quality of the four. Builders install it in Louisiana because here in this state we just don’t give a shite about much. Cut costs, aesthetics be damned.

So last year, I’d bet at least half of Baton Rouge residents lost their lawn when the centipede couldn’t withstand high temps and drought. Bermuda can.

quote:

Here in Ga nothing grows worth crap consistently.
That’s why I have a no grass yard. Haha
There’s tons of beautiful Bermuda lawns from northern AL to NC…it grows quite well.
This post was edited on 3/29/24 at 10:00 am
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
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Posted on 3/29/24 at 7:18 pm to
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There’s tons of beautiful Bermuda lawns from northern AL to NC…it grows quite well.


No. It doesn’t. At least not consistently.
Or I guess it depends on how much money you want to spend. Unless you live here you don’t get it.
Posted by ronk
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Posted on 3/29/24 at 8:03 pm to
Yes it does. You don’t need to do anything to have a Bermuda lawn.
Posted by bayoubengals88
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Posted on 3/29/24 at 8:10 pm to
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Unless you live here you don’t get it.
!!

If it has 8 hours of sun Bermuda will grow on gravel. I genuinely don’t understand why you’re disagreeing, if you’re disagreeing.

You live in Bermuda country.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
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Posted on 3/30/24 at 3:01 pm to
Fine.
You guys that don’t live here know.
Posted by Tifway419
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Posted on 3/30/24 at 3:30 pm to
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Tigertown in ATL
Assuming you live in Georgia, you should try growing Bermuda. You’re in the best state for it!
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