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Anyone have a lead on a tri-fuel generator?

Posted on 7/29/24 at 10:01 am
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
29372 posts
Posted on 7/29/24 at 10:01 am
It seems tri-fuel are sold out everywhere. I have been looking for a few weeks now and would prefer a generator I could run on natural gas so I don't have to worry about refueling.

Everything 9500W or higher are sold out. Seems Westinghouse is the main brand and I'm guessing Beryl is the reason they were all snatched up?

Any leads?
Posted by lsugolfredman
Member since Jun 2005
1928 posts
Posted on 7/29/24 at 10:02 am to
My local Costco (BR) still had some this week. Firman Tri-Fuel.

Was a workhorse for me during Ida.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22476 posts
Posted on 7/29/24 at 10:07 am to
You can buy kits to turn many of them especially the more popular gas engine generators into a propane. It’s fairly simple to do for many of them.

Propane is great if you have a huge tank, but the portable propane tanks are only 5 gallons give or take and not going to last you long.

Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
71619 posts
Posted on 7/29/24 at 10:10 am to
quote:

the portable propane tanks are only 5 gallons give or take and not going to last you long.


yeah, i have a dual-fuel Firman. Don't have natural gas at our house. The small propane tank lasts roughly 4 hours. But, at least it doesn't gum up the carb.
This post was edited on 7/29/24 at 10:32 am
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
5138 posts
Posted on 7/29/24 at 10:30 am to
Converting a dual fuel to natural gas is extremely easy.

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Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
29372 posts
Posted on 7/29/24 at 10:41 am to
quote:

My local Costco (BR) still had some this week. Firman Tri-Fuel.

Was a workhorse for me during Ida.


Think I might need to go this route. Might hold off on natural gas and just run it on gasoline for max power.

Can you tell me how long it ran on a full tank?
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
15694 posts
Posted on 7/29/24 at 11:10 am to
Get dual fuel and a conversion kit if you're in a bind.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
28691 posts
Posted on 7/29/24 at 11:35 am to
quote:

The small propane tank lasts roughly 4 hours


damn that doesn't sound good. That's an expensive 4 hours it seems. i know propane and natural gas aren't going to be more efficient than gasoline, but that seems like a lot less.
5 gallons of gas would last me 6 hours easily, and cost $15 instead of $25.


That's $2.50/hr compared to $6.25/hr
Starts to add up real quick when the powers been out for 5 days.
Posted by Tiger Dan 16
Central City, New Orleans
Member since Jul 2024
112 posts
Posted on 7/29/24 at 11:53 am to
we can thank the shitty state of Texas for that.
Posted by bubba102105
Member since Aug 2017
503 posts
Posted on 7/30/24 at 11:58 am to
quote:

You can buy kits to turn many of them especially the more popular gas engine generators into a propane


Was coming on here to say that. When I was in the market last year I went with the duromax 13k dual fuel and converted it with a kit. Think at the time it saved me probably $600+ compared to buying a trifuel.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
26156 posts
Posted on 7/30/24 at 3:58 pm to
I have the tri fuel Firman from Costco and it has worked flawlessly on natural gas the two times I’ve needed it.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
71619 posts
Posted on 7/30/24 at 4:12 pm to
true. Although it's more like $19-$20 for a tank exchange and less if I take the tank to get refilled.

It's probably still more expensive but, then you don't have the hassle of carburetor issues later.
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
12133 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 7:52 am to
A friend of mine just went through this recently and I helped him do a load calculation and such for his HVAC with a soft starter. His comments:

quote:

Just picked up a Westinghouse wgen10500tfc, which is a trifuel gen that pushes 8500 running watts in nat gas and higher on propane and gasoline. Scoured FB Marketplace, Home Depot, Lowe’s, Harbor Freight, etc for weeks until I found a feature on the Home Depot app that notifies me when back in stock. I got a notification email that this was back in store at 5pm and saw the inventory was around 250 qty. by 7pm it was down to 180 and by 5am they were sold out. Luckily I pulled the trigger and picked it up today.

Some important things:

- sign up for notification emails when an item is back in stock
- check warranty information before converting the fuel source of your gen. I was shopping duel fuels until I read that converting a duel to nat gas would void warranty.
- 8500 running watts on nat gas was as low as I’d go from what I heard and researched. I’m aiming to power 5 ton AC (with soft start), nat gas tankless water heater, water softener, electronics (internet and tv), and a few lights. Because of this wattage, it was between a Westinghouse 10500 and a Duromax 13000hxt. The westing was well priced with copper clad aluminum windings, which is good enough. And the Duromax was expensive, but with copper windings, which is ideal. All other brands/models were either OOS, too expensive, or had 100% aluminum windings. I would consider the Predator 13000 (7500 running watts on nat gas) if I had a 3 or 4 ton AC since it’s well priced with copper windings
- an electrician adding an interlock kit to breaker box and an inlet from indoor breaker box to near gas meter was $450 (inlet provided by me $50; kit by electrician). A plumber is going to T off a nat gas valve from the meter for $250. I bought a 50 ft 50A cord for just under $300 as well as an all-weather gen cover for $150.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22476 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 9:49 am to
quote:

- check warranty information before converting the fuel source of your gen. I was shopping duel fuels until I read that converting a duel to nat gas would void warranty.


Personally this should be the last worry that I would ever have. Its like a combat soldier worrying about a warranty, when the shite hits the fan and you need something to work you only use what you are comfortable with and what's going to work or can be fixed.

If you are more comfortable with a tri-fuel bought OEM, certainly go that route. But adding an aftermarket propane or Nat gas conversion is extremely easy and if you have a generator like a Honda, Yamaha, or other very proven model than doing that should really not be an issue at all.

I just can't tell you the amount of times I've had "warranty" work not be worth it, and paid to get something fixed. I once had a 2 year old AC under warranty have a circuit board go out in the summer, it was a 3 week wait for the warranty part. I know that's anecdotal, but you gotta ask yourself in the time of a storm how good is that warranty and how fast is that service going to be? Cash is usually king.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
43442 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 9:51 am to
the only caveat to the conversion kits is that if the generator has an "eco-mode" it probably wont work after the NG/LP conversion, at least it didnt on my honda. it runs great, it just wont throttle down with no/low load...WOT all the time
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
14654 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 1:15 pm to
My Duromax XP9000IH is able to throttle down on eco mode while on NG after i converted it, it just can't start my soft starting HVAC compressor while on eco mode now
This post was edited on 7/31/24 at 1:16 pm
Posted by Ncook
Member since Feb 2019
625 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 10:51 pm to
Have heard same thing on propane consumption
5 gallon tanks last 4 hours

No thanks
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
29372 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 8:05 am to
I went with the Firmin trifuel from Costco. Having a natural gas line ran today so I won't have to worry about fuel.

Being that my power goes out randomly on clear, sunny days I feel this will bring great peace of mind for me. At least I know my fridge and freezer will be safe.
Posted by LSUDad
Still on the move
Member since May 2004
60729 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 11:10 am to
There's a Facebook page, "Generators: Portable Generators To Power Entire House."

Also " DuroMax Power" also has a FaceBook page.

Both are very helpful.
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