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TRT/Peptide advice - Labs included - *Updated with most recent Labs*
Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:22 pm
I wanted to get some advice from the board on TRT pertaining to my numbers that I had run at Rejuvime. A little history, I grew up using a good bit of Test, Deca, Tren and everything in between, which was about 20 years ago. So I expected my numbers to be low. Which they obviously are.
Move on to today and I am an endurance junkie who trains mostly for performance and longevity. I mostly run but do some cycling as well. Usually average about 1K miles a year on each.
I'm currently nursing a pretty debilitating lower leg stress injury, which has raised my awareness and interest in all of this. I want to come back from this stronger, but not at the expense of throwing more money away than I already have working with MD's, PT's, etc. regarding this injury.
Not looking for Medical advice from the board per se, just advice on pricing, need, etc.
So what Rejuvime prescribed is 80mg Test C 2x week at $155/ mo, which I understand is a rip off. I will try to source a PCP to get this through Insurance.
What I am wanting advice on is the Peptides. They are recommending I take BPC at $450/mo and Sermorelin at $270/mo. I understand these are probably cash cows for them?
I'm not too fond of putting anything else man made into my body, but if it will help performance wise, I guess I would be open to it? Anyone use Peptides? The prices on these is ridiculous.
General thoughts?
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Move on to today and I am an endurance junkie who trains mostly for performance and longevity. I mostly run but do some cycling as well. Usually average about 1K miles a year on each.
I'm currently nursing a pretty debilitating lower leg stress injury, which has raised my awareness and interest in all of this. I want to come back from this stronger, but not at the expense of throwing more money away than I already have working with MD's, PT's, etc. regarding this injury.
Not looking for Medical advice from the board per se, just advice on pricing, need, etc.
So what Rejuvime prescribed is 80mg Test C 2x week at $155/ mo, which I understand is a rip off. I will try to source a PCP to get this through Insurance.
What I am wanting advice on is the Peptides. They are recommending I take BPC at $450/mo and Sermorelin at $270/mo. I understand these are probably cash cows for them?
I'm not too fond of putting anything else man made into my body, but if it will help performance wise, I guess I would be open to it? Anyone use Peptides? The prices on these is ridiculous.
General thoughts?
[/img]This post was edited on 6/29/23 at 10:50 am
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Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:38 pm to TigeRoots
$720/month on Peptides?! That's ridiculous. If you need them, ordering online is way cheaper.
As far as advice, I am still researching. Buddy of mine just started them so I can let you know in a week or so. I am sure there are posters here with better info. I just said a bunch of nothing.
Is LSU777 banned?
As far as advice, I am still researching. Buddy of mine just started them so I can let you know in a week or so. I am sure there are posters here with better info. I just said a bunch of nothing.
Is LSU777 banned?
Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:44 pm to LSUPERMAN
Not sure if he's banned or not? Was hoping he would chime in. And yeah I figured I could find those peptides online for cheaper. I'm just suspicious that they are snake oil.
They also mentioned DHEA supplementation, which I'm seeing mixed reviews of online. Will do some more research on this.
They also mentioned DHEA supplementation, which I'm seeing mixed reviews of online. Will do some more research on this.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:46 pm to LSUPERMAN
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Is LSU777 banned?
No. He takes a break from the board during Lent.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:52 pm to TigeRoots
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So what Rejuvime prescribed is 80mg Test C 2x week at $155/ mo, which I understand is a rip off. I will try to source a PCP to get this through Insurance.
Good luck. Depending on your age and/or symptoms, your total test number is “in range”.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:52 pm to TigeRoots
I wouldn’t fool with the peptides. Use the testosterone and see what happens on the next panel then you can think of making adjustments.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:57 pm to ronricks
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I wouldn’t fool with the peptides. Use the testosterone and see what happens on the next panel then you can think of making adjustments.
Kind of where I'm at with it. I'll see my PCP within that time also for my annual Physical so will run everything by him as well.
For reference I'm 42 years old. Forgot to mention.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 5:14 pm to TigeRoots
PCP is a very dangerous psychotic drug. Be very careful with this shite!
Posted on 4/5/23 at 5:23 pm to LSUPERMAN
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Is LSU777 banned?
He will rise again on Sunday. BPC 157 is cheap as shite. No way I’d spend that much. I used Peptide science.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 5:33 pm to BigPerm30
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He will rise again on Sunday. BPC 157 is cheap as shite. No way I’d spend that much. I used Peptide science.
Hmmm, reading up on this one and this looks like something that may help me out recovering from this injury (akin to a stress fracture) and prevention going forward for performance and injury prevention. What do you use it for? Anything in particular? How is it administered? SubC?
This post was edited on 4/5/23 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 4/5/23 at 6:07 pm to TigeRoots
I used it for my shoulder injury. I don’t think I got much relief but I probably didn’t use enough in retrospect. You shoot it once or twice a day with an insulin needle. I’m a pussy and got my wife to shoot me up in the arm but you can do it yourself.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 6:32 pm to TigeRoots
Honestly, your labs don’t look too bad for someone that has done a bunch anabolics. I don’t see SHBG - did they test that? I’m guessing the blue handwritten ranges are where they want you at? Places like this just sound bad to me. You only have one endocrine system, be careful who you trust it with. Any symptoms of low T?
Posted on 4/5/23 at 6:57 pm to AyyyBaw
Some slight libido issues, fatigue at times (but I train alot, so this may be expected or not), trouble sleeping at times.
And yeah the blue numbers are where they want me to be. And I agree that these places are kinda cringe; no denying that.
I guess one of the main attractions for me also is that I like to train for performance at a high level running/cycling, so that plays a part. If I can get an edge so to say. But I don't necessarily want to do this at the expense of long term health issues.
And yeah the blue numbers are where they want me to be. And I agree that these places are kinda cringe; no denying that.
I guess one of the main attractions for me also is that I like to train for performance at a high level running/cycling, so that plays a part. If I can get an edge so to say. But I don't necessarily want to do this at the expense of long term health issues.
This post was edited on 4/5/23 at 7:01 pm
Posted on 4/5/23 at 7:08 pm to TigeRoots
I’d see if they are willing to write you a script for Proviron as well.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 10:54 am to AyyyBaw
His Free Test is pretty low (6.4) which would suggest SHBG levels aren't great.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:08 pm to TigeRoots
Screw the peptides. Too much money. Semorelin is nightly injections 5 days a week which is a pain in the arse!
Do only the Test and see how you feel. It is expensive there. I pay $70 for 10ml vial of 200mg/ml Test with GoodRX.
Do only the Test and see how you feel. It is expensive there. I pay $70 for 10ml vial of 200mg/ml Test with GoodRX.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:46 pm to tke_swamprat
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Do only the Test and see how you feel. It is expensive there. I pay $70 for 10ml vial of 200mg/ml Test with GoodRX.
Yeah, these are my thoughts.
So the GoodRX is through your PCP, who writes you a prescription for it?
Posted on 4/7/23 at 2:50 am to tke_swamprat
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I pay $70 for 10ml vial of 200mg/ml
How long does that generally last you?
Posted on 4/7/23 at 9:26 pm to TigeRoots
Talk to your Dr about Clomid.
Its on-label use is as a female fertility drug.
However, it can be used as TRT treatment in men.
It can get your T levels into the mid 600s and it keeps your testicles working as they should. Your balls usually get bigger on Clomid.
For men, this med has a good safety profile and doesn’t have bad side effects.
Edit…Doctors typically consider anything below 300 as treatable.
Edit 2…you need to get that A1C down.
Its on-label use is as a female fertility drug.
However, it can be used as TRT treatment in men.
It can get your T levels into the mid 600s and it keeps your testicles working as they should. Your balls usually get bigger on Clomid.
For men, this med has a good safety profile and doesn’t have bad side effects.
Edit…Doctors typically consider anything below 300 as treatable.
Edit 2…you need to get that A1C down.
This post was edited on 4/7/23 at 9:29 pm
Posted on 4/8/23 at 7:33 am to Eli Goldfinger
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Edit 2…you need to get that A1C down.
I hear ya. My A1C has been in the 5.2-5.5 range literally since 2018. Not sure what I need to do, I exercise daily, as I mentioned I run and cycle 1K miles on each annually and strength train. I eat clean, only weigh like 145-150. Stress and/or genetics is really the only thing I can contribute it to. My estranged father (dead now) had all kinds of health issues as far as I know. Gonna bring it up to Doc again this year at annual physical time.
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