re: TRT/Peptide advice - Labs included - *Updated with most recent Labs*

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TigeRoots

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so couple things,

#1) before you go jumping on test lets see if we can get your levels up without that.

#2) if you do need test or peptides, frick paying that much. if you get a script, test is around $50 max through good rx for 10ml that will last about 3 months and if that is a no go, better off going black market and getting it for $40 a pop.


#3) if you feel the peptides will help the injury than lets get you on a BPC/TB500 regiment. We do never want to get on sermorelin alone, but also thats way too much. if your going to take anythign hgh wise, we want to get a script and order from reviverx out of houston. if possible we want to look at a ghrh and a ghrp combo. The preferred combo would be ipamorelin as the ghrp and cjc 1295 as the ghrh. if you cant get script, buy from peptide sciences. we want to take this right before bed at a dosage of 500mg ipam/300mg cjc 1295 if possible. this will simulate natural gh release.


#4) lets get you on the following

1) lets start with boron at 9mg/day.

2) lets get diet in order. Lets up the good fats and start lifting again. work around the injury. I suggest PPSA plan and work around it as needed.

3) for cholesterol, prolly be fine once you start dieting but in case, lets get you on the following

a) Nattokinase- 3 caps in the morning, 3 in the afternoon
b) Citrus Bergomot- 3 caps morning, 3 in afternoon

4) for better sleep and gh release, before you go on anything, lets try and get you on higher dose melatonin. start at 10mg before bed, at 5-10mg a week until you get to 30-40mg for now. Unless you have sleep apnea, then disregard!!

5) get a high quality dhea. dhea complete from life extension works well. 3-4 caps per day to start.

your estradiol is low and thats certainly not helping you feel better. super low will have you feeling worse than super high.


start with the above and see where you are in 2 months. if you want to help get the injury healed, use tb500 and bpc combo. look up dosing on reddit.

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We do never want to get on sermorelin alone

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Any reason for this? I was looking at jumping on this after the BPC, once injury is healed. Not going through Rejuvime, but buying/mixing on my own through PS.

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shite. Too late, haha!

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if thats the way you want to go, go. You know that it can suck after a while and all of the shite that goes along with it. Just make sure you get your blood work done, lmk if you have any questions

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Have started lifting again, working around the injury like you said. I have had a couple running Docs/PT's weigh in on this and feel like I have a good plan.

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good this is gonna make biggest difference. remember though you are older, lots of time constraints. once you get injury healed, i suggest sticking to a plan that someone else wrote, one that fits your current lifestyle.

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Will check this.

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those two will really help your chol levels.

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I'll look more into this. Online studies showed no real efficacy, but I didn't dig in too deep.

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if you are going on trt, dont worry about the dhea, kind of a waste if you are on that.

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if goign through PS, just get ipam and cjc. run 500mcg ipam, 250mcg cjc before bed nightly.

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Awesome, this is info that I needed.

Thanks for all of this, dude. Will be diving into this.

I feel like my main issue tbh is shift work/sleep schedule. Actively working on getting on a “normal schedule”. 10 years of shift work is enough for me. I feel like this injury can be attributed to recovery/sleep due to shift work.

I’m very conscious of my sleep but with my schedule I may get 5-6 hrs a few nights (or days) in a row, and then get 9-10+ for a couple/few days rinse and repeat. So a 7 day avg will look like 8-9 avg, but that doesn’t make up for the 5-6 hours a night half of the time. And a trashed circadian rhythm.

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So this would be a "lifetime commitment" much like the test or just as needed?

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no, you can come off. taking like above doesnt really effect natural production and cause much shutdown.

would be like taking a 200mg test cycle at 20, prolly recovering within 6 weeks back to baseline easily.

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my advice would be unless you just love them, stop running marathons.

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It's the digging deep for long periods of time, feeling comfortable being uncomfortable, the training, everything that goes along with it. I realize it's probably not the healthiest thing to do but I at least want to get a couple more underneath my belt before stepping down the mainly shorter distances. I understand where you're coming from, haha!

Sent you an email, 77…

What’s a good Free to Overall T ratio?

3%? Higher?

I’m starting 3mg of Boron AM/PM to help boost it.

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free test is pg/ml

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my lab review from the online clinic listed it as ng/dl. Gave an "optimal" range of 18-35 ng/dl on free test for those taking trt.

eta I'm thinking they used the wrong units though.

That blood panel gives 6.8-21.5 pg/dl as a normal reference range