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re: TRT/Peptide advice - Labs included - *Updated with most recent Labs*

Posted on 4/21/23 at 11:29 am to
Posted by tke_swamprat
Houma, LA
Member since Aug 2004
9768 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 11:29 am to
I need to try SQ and see how I react. I've been doing quads which is so convenient and easy with minimal PIP.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31204 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 12:47 pm to
quote:

I need to try SQ and see how I react. I've been doing quads which is so convenient and easy with minimal PIP.


sub q is way way easier with insulin pin but do 2x weekly if so because some get bruising and lumps and the more oil the better chance of that.

its painless, results are better too. sucks i get lumps and bruising with any amount of oil.
Posted by SimonSlick
Member since Oct 2007
3808 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 2:59 pm to
I switched to subcutaneous injections months ago at your advice and it is far better for me. I use tuberculin syringes
Posted by TigeRoots
Member since Oct 2008
8505 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 4:10 pm to
Got my first bruise from SubQ this week. I’ve got a ton of scar tissue from decades ago on my hip, hope I don’t have to go back to IM.

Doing the BPC157 2x/day is kind of a pain in the arse. Along with the Cyp 2x/week. Feeling much better though and injury is 100x better, although no way to know if that’s from the BPC or just reduced loading from laying off of the running.
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
9642 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 7:18 pm to
My next bloodwork won’t be for 5 months so I’ll probably jump on Efferding’s site and order up the $450 panel in 2 months.
Posted by taeemwar
Dallas
Member since Apr 2010
537 posts
Posted on 4/29/23 at 4:12 pm to
Just starting following this thread. I’ve been on TRT for about 7 months. Going to be 60 next year and I feel like I am 30 years younger. My levels before were not bad but I feel a ton better and my workouts are off the charts. I also cleaned up my diet which helped.
Posted by Rust Cohle
Baton rouge
Member since Mar 2014
1945 posts
Posted on 4/29/23 at 8:49 pm to
What were your pre and post levels? Besides libido how did it effect energy, motivation, and general outlook?
Posted by taeemwar
Dallas
Member since Apr 2010
537 posts
Posted on 4/29/23 at 11:28 pm to
Pre was 595 and post was over 1000. I was 1500 on my blood test after about 3 months and they backed down my test to .6 ml once a week. Energy is a ton better and I have more focus. I have been really good with my workouts and doing a lot better with my diet.
Posted by Rust Cohle
Baton rouge
Member since Mar 2014
1945 posts
Posted on 4/30/23 at 12:34 pm to
That’s the higher end for your age range? Did you get treated at a men’s clinic type place? Do they typically treat at those levels? I’m at 450 didn’t realize they would treat unless low. Primary for sure wouldn’t. I’m really very hesitant of the whole thing of side effects, even with a medical background not sure I could cover all my bases and not sure I could trust a physician to be a good enough advocate.
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
9642 posts
Posted on 4/30/23 at 1:03 pm to
600 is around the middle range with 980 or so being the upper. Your primary may treat 450 if your free is out of range.

Any Men’s clinic will find a reason to put you on T.
Posted by DownSouthTiger
downsouth
Member since Jan 2005
2550 posts
Posted on 4/30/23 at 1:44 pm to
I was just recently placed on TRT. My overall testosterone was 290 and I am 48 years old. I was prescribed a half of a ml a week of Test C. Well the vials are 200mg per vial which are 1ml. So I was given 4 vials as a month supply and I can refill in a month. The pharmacy told me that is the smallest vial they have and once opened I should throw away remainder. So it has the rubber seal you stick syringe through so why should it be thrown away I wouldn't think it would go bad? I am only going to take what Dr prescribed me so doesn't male sense to throw away a half a ml each week.
Posted by taeemwar
Dallas
Member since Apr 2010
537 posts
Posted on 4/30/23 at 2:13 pm to
Men’s clinic. My BP is down and so is my weight. I am trying to be on the lookout for any negatives.
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
9642 posts
Posted on 4/30/23 at 3:59 pm to
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why should it be thrown away I wouldn't think it would go bad?


It won’t go bad..

If they are giving you (4) 1 ml bottles per month just go with .3-.4ml injections 2x per week and start to hoard it.
Posted by caro81
Member since Jul 2017
4901 posts
Posted on 4/30/23 at 7:58 pm to
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I use tuberculin syringes


how are you guys injecting the test with insulin and TB needles? the stuff i got is so thick and viscous i dont think it will pass through those. i have to draw it up with a 20g.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
6832 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 4:08 am to
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The pharmacy told me that is the smallest vial they have and once opened I should throw away


I would love to see what the moron looks like who told you this.

Like the other poster said don’t throw it away it is good for years just hoard it.
Posted by btr08ex
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2014
453 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 4:17 am to
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One 10ml vile last me 15 weeks. I do .6-.7 every Sunday. Total test is usually between 800-900


Are you still able to get a 10ml vile? The pharmacy I go to said that they can only get 1ml viles and 4 of them were costing me the same as the 10ml vile.
Posted by btr08ex
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2014
453 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 4:19 am to
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how are you guys injecting the test with insulin and TB needles? the stuff i got is so thick and viscous i dont think it will pass through those. i have to draw it up with a 20g.


Ask the pharmacy if they have draw up needles. It replaces the tip of the syringe and takes a couple of seconds to draw it up
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31204 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 9:07 am to
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Are you still able to get a 10ml vile? The pharmacy I go to said that they can only get 1ml viles and 4 of them were costing me the same as the 10ml vile.



cvs last time gave me 10 of he 1ml vials so not sure if you still can.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31204 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 9:16 am to
quote:

how are you guys injecting the test with insulin and TB needles? the stuff i got is so thick and viscous i dont think it will pass through those. i have to draw it up with a 20g.



i order the syringes off gpzservices and order the 29g or 27g needles and 20g draw needles.

heat the oil buy running the vial(not the stopper) under very hot water or use a blow dryer and draw, change needle then shoot. make sure you dont get it too hot.
Posted by DownSouthTiger
downsouth
Member since Jan 2005
2550 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 1:23 pm to
With the GoodRx coupon I got the 4 1ML vials for $30.
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