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re: TRT/Peptide advice - Labs included - *Updated with most recent Labs*

Posted on 4/20/23 at 1:35 pm to
Posted by tke_swamprat
Houma, LA
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 1:35 pm to
My coworker prescribes my TRT. We have a wellness clinic/urgent care so we monitor our labs and what not.

One 10ml vile last me 15 weeks. I do .6-.7 every Sunday. Total test is usually between 800-900
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 2:10 pm to
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I do .6-.7 every Sunday

I’d recommend splitting that up at least twice a week
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 3:58 pm to
My overall was 960 ng/ml and free was 22 pg/ml (5 days after an injection).

Reference range for free was 7.2-24 pg/ml
This post was edited on 4/20/23 at 4:01 pm
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 4:00 pm to
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I’d recommend splitting that up at least twice a week


I do once per week.

At the end of 7 days (before the next injection) the overall was 760.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 4:12 pm to
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I do once per week.


leveraging dosage frequency
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 4:39 pm to
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dunno the % and not gonna do the conversions right now


Peter Attia mentioned 2-4% free to total
Posted by tke_swamprat
Houma, LA
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 10:12 pm to
Half life is 7-10 days on Cyp. Once a week is fine.

If I were doing a cycle like 400-500mg a week, I would split that up mainly due to volume.
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 4/21/23 at 6:29 am to
Half life is not what’s relevant to that discussion
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/21/23 at 7:44 am to
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Half life is 7-10 days on Cyp. Once a week is fine.


sure but you will have a lot more peaks and valleys and half life is 7-8 days on cyp so you essentially have half the amount you did 7 days later. that is big swings which invites side effects.

i get it though, after years of being on it, i sometimes go to once a week, hell sometimes every other because at times you start dreading shots. especially now that i get lumps if i do subq an dhave to do IM for every shot again.
Posted by TigerAlum93
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/21/23 at 8:42 am to
Good points. I think for most doing true TRT doses via IM, Test Cyp once a week is desirable, minimal side effects. IM more than once a week might not be worth the extra jab. If doing Sub Q, then yes, maybe go twice per week. If doing higher doses, same thing, maybe go twice per week.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/21/23 at 8:54 am to
I just got my labs back from the 4-5 week 150mg/week dose.

I noticed that my estradiol was high AF (38.1pg/ml and 16.1pg/ml prior to trt).

test came back at 1200 ng/dl and 36.8 free t

Just a corresponding correlation to the high test levels or need to take a small amount of arimidex?
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22171 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 9:16 am to
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test came back at 1200 ng/dl and 36.8 free t


I believe that is good from what Attia said. 3%

I still think you are within normal range of estradiol (10 to 50 pg/mL). Estrogen is still important for normal health.
This post was edited on 4/21/23 at 9:20 am
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
15556 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 9:21 am to
yeah, health rep just said the same thing. Good deal. I feel like I’ve had slightly less sex drive compared to prior to trt which is weird, thought it could be the estradiol. Maybe HCG would help
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22171 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 9:28 am to
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yeah, health rep just said the same thing. Good deal. I feel like I’ve had slightly less sex drive compared to prior to trt which is weird, thought it could be the estradiol. Maybe HCG would help


Could be a hormonal thing or it could be a mental thing. Maybe you are thinking you should be a raging freak and your expectations are hampering your actual increase? Is it a detrimental loss in drive? If not, I'd personally not worry about it as you can tell with increasing your test, estrogen rose. If you increase a hormone for you sex drive, you might increase something else (or lower) that will be annoying and you are now a walking medicine cabinet.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/21/23 at 9:35 am to
estrogen levels are fine. as far as sex drive...could be a million things.
Posted by Monahans
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 4/21/23 at 10:43 am to
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strogen levels are fine. as far as sex drive...could be a million things.

I missed where you posted your email do you mind if I contact you with some questions?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 4/21/23 at 10:47 am to
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Posted by tke_swamprat
Houma, LA
Member since Aug 2004
9768 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 10:55 am to
Much easier for me to remember to do once a week than twice. I don't notice any yo-yo effects of once a week but I've been on TRT for some time.
Posted by Monahans
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 4/21/23 at 11:02 am to
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lsu777td gmail

Thanks sent you an email
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/21/23 at 11:10 am to
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Much easier for me to remember to do once a week than twice. I don't notice any yo-yo effects of once a week but I've been on TRT for some time.


yea i doubt you will, many dont but its not gonna keeep nearly as stable blood levels as 2x. but from a scar tissue standpoint, pain in the arse standpoint, totally get 1x.
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