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re: Sugar is like crack. How to stop eating it
Posted on 11/1/19 at 11:29 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
Posted on 11/1/19 at 11:29 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
Dark Chocolate covered Almonds
Estevia
Cottage Cheese with Blueberries for desert.
Easier once you get your body fat eating adapted
Estevia
Cottage Cheese with Blueberries for desert.
Easier once you get your body fat eating adapted
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Posted on 11/1/19 at 11:31 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
I am in my second month of Whole30. Its my preference of cutting sugar out of my diet and life. I did Whole30 2 yrs ago. I’m a sugarholic. Can eat bags of sugar candy with citric acid and fructose. Craved it not everyday, but very often. Couldn’t walk through a store without buying couple of bags n eat immediately exiting store. Yes, it’s hard starting out on this diet, but you finally feel free and in control of your body n health. My husband joined me during this first Whole30 period. He got off of his b/p med and was able to cut the other pill in half. (He did no salt, also). Cardiologist couldn’t believe everything was diet related. I Lost 10 lbs but more in inches. Yes, after a while we did have a glass of wine off n on. But after reading all of your comments, I just had to post my thoughts and experiences with Whole30. Yes, it has lots of categories of no no’s. But I traded some of them for watermelon, pineapple, apples, grapes, dates, raisins, and almonds and cashews, steak, fish, chicken, and lots of roasted vegetables, and almond butter, coconut aminos, and omelets for breakfast loaded with veggies. I’m getting into nut pods for my coffee creamer instead of ghee. I’m anticipating my upcoming physical with good results. Started walking 2+miles. I’ve had non-scale victories and those are the best!!
This post was edited on 11/1/19 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 11/1/19 at 12:38 pm to pwejr88
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There are great substitutes. What has sugar you like? For me:
Coke - switched to Coke Zero
Candy - switched to sugar-free candy
Snacking - nuts, fruit bars, etc
Coffee and tea - Splenda
This is bad advice. Substitutes are just bandaids.
OP, you just need to fricking do it. Grit it out for a week and you’ll feel like a million dollars. It comes easy after that.
Don’t eat anything you didn’t prepare or know the specifics on how it was prepared. Don’t buy anything without checking the label (including reading the ingredients... research that). Drink a lot of water. Get a lot of electrolytes, buy supplements for that if you have to.
Posted on 11/1/19 at 6:26 pm to Hulkklogan
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People give way too much power to food
Aight then, if that's the case, only eat zero carbs for a month.
Don't give me the money excuse, ground beef and eggs are cheap. If you say its boring, then that goes against what you said.
Food can be addictive.
Posted on 11/1/19 at 6:56 pm to Junky
Please point to where I said food can't be addictive? I'm confused.
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That also doesn't really prove anything. Adherence on such a diet is going to be very low because you will feel restricted by lack of options. That has nothing to do with addiction.
Mastery of food isn't "avoid everything" it's "I can eat the things I want in moderation without fear or guilt and still achieve my goals"
To LSU777s point, some people compare sugar to cocaine because the same regions of the brain light up, but you don't see bums hanging out on the street begging for money so they can go get a hit of sugar.
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That also doesn't really prove anything. Adherence on such a diet is going to be very low because you will feel restricted by lack of options. That has nothing to do with addiction.
Mastery of food isn't "avoid everything" it's "I can eat the things I want in moderation without fear or guilt and still achieve my goals"
To LSU777s point, some people compare sugar to cocaine because the same regions of the brain light up, but you don't see bums hanging out on the street begging for money so they can go get a hit of sugar.
This post was edited on 11/1/19 at 7:02 pm
Posted on 11/1/19 at 7:33 pm to boxcarbarney
Peanut butter mixed with some raw honey over a slice of whole grain toast with some banana slices on top does the trick for me
Posted on 11/1/19 at 8:52 pm to jkylejohnson
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does the trick for me
For some of us, no snack or diet plan or motivational speech works because it’s not about hunger or cravings but stress, addiction, and catharsis.
I’ve found the only way for me to avoid falling into a sugar binge is to STFU and keep it out of the house. Find a way to have something to do when those moments hit where I quit caring about my health and more about shutting off the world. It’s not very different than going for a bottle, which I assume I’d do if I wasn’t allergic to alcohol.
Posted on 11/4/19 at 12:14 pm to jkylejohnson
Whole grain is sugar
Posted on 11/4/19 at 1:03 pm to Hulkklogan
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Adherence on such a diet is going to be very low because you will feel restricted by lack of options. That has nothing to do with addiction.
Only people who haven't tried it say this. You'd think it'd be restrictive and has a lack of options. However, once you're past the BS of food (addictive nonsense), you crave meat. Even after months of only eating steak, seeing another steak makes one salivate if they haven't eaten in a while.
Your choice to eat other foods, but don't kid yourself, there are addictions there. Now, I am talking about the absolute minimum food options needed, not wanted.
Posted on 11/4/19 at 1:38 pm to Junky
Sugar isn't fricking addictive.
Stop spreading that bullshite. If that was the case how come people don't eat tablespoons of plain table sugar? How come they aren't squatting honey directly into the mouth.
Use some common sense. It isn't addicting in a physical sense. People enjoy foods that are both high sugar and high fat because they are highly palatable.
And stop fricking insulting beautiful white fluffy delicious cocaine like that!! How dare you!!!
Stop spreading that bullshite. If that was the case how come people don't eat tablespoons of plain table sugar? How come they aren't squatting honey directly into the mouth.
Use some common sense. It isn't addicting in a physical sense. People enjoy foods that are both high sugar and high fat because they are highly palatable.
And stop fricking insulting beautiful white fluffy delicious cocaine like that!! How dare you!!!
Posted on 11/4/19 at 2:58 pm to lsu777
Posted on 11/4/19 at 3:30 pm to lsu777
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How come they aren't squatting honey directly into the mouth.
Oh don't tell me you haven't done this
Posted on 11/4/19 at 6:01 pm to Hammond Tiger Fan
Fresh crackling/gratons is crack! The hell with sugar.
Posted on 11/4/19 at 10:49 pm to Rand AlThor
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This is bad advice. Substitutes are just bandaids
Oh really?
Well it got me from sugar to no sugar.
I would say it’s good advice considering I lived it.
Posted on 11/4/19 at 11:43 pm to lsu777
I've had a load of Halloween candy sitting on my desk at work for the past week that we handed out to kids who came to trick or treat but I had tons left over. I haven't touched any of it. Not even one Starburst or mini size milky way. I have no trouble avoiding it.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 5:09 pm to lsu777
quote:This seems like a distinction without an actual difference. Sugar-laden foods certainly do seem to be addictive in some domain.
Sugar isn't fricking addictive.
Stop spreading that bullshite. If that was the case how come people don't eat tablespoons of plain table sugar? How come they aren't squatting honey directly into the mouth.
Use some common sense. It isn't addicting in a physical sense. People enjoy foods that are both high sugar and high fat because they are highly palatable.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 9:25 pm to Big Scrub TX
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This seems like a distinction without an actual difference. Sugar-laden foods certainly do seem to be addictive in some domain.
Is it sugar or is it highly palatable foods that are high in sugar and fat like donuts, cheesecake etc?
Again if sugar is so addicting then how come don't ever here of people saying "I can't stop eating table sugar? Or "help, I drank the whole bottle of honey"?
You and I would both agree that something like rice is eventually processed similar to sugar, yet I don't ever hear of people saying "OMG, I just ate 8 cups of white rice, I'm addicted"????
What I hear is I like donuts, I like cake, I like cheesecake, I like rice & gravy, I like pasta with sauce, I love cookies etc etc etc
Sugar is not addicting. Eating highly palatable foods can be an emotional crutch though. But sugar is not like crack.
I think Bob Sagar said it best "you ever suck some dick for sugar, man"???
Funny I never see sugar bums on the street. I do see fat people everywhere that love the easy access to highly palatable foods that are cheap and comforting. Many of these same people can't even be bothered to walk the grocery store anymore to buy those foods, instead they ride the scooter or now they get the curbside delivery option and never leave their vehicle. These same people are lucky if they take 1500 steps in a day and that's in a good day.
So instead of being addicted to sugar, they are emotionally invested in easy access to foods that make them feel good and have zero desire to perform any form of hard work.
In general society is filled with pussies. They loathe hard work.
And ftr sugar doesn't make you fat one damn bit so long as you hit your macros. Plenty of people have gotten into contest shape eating Pop tarts daily. Now as you get into lower bf% fat can become stubborn especially if eating like that and sometimes it takes longer to lose the fat, but being in an overall calorie deficit with plenty of protein is kind of like Novacaine, it works every time, just have to give it time.
Posted on 11/6/19 at 12:49 pm to lsu777
quote:It's sugar. Regarding fat - I don't know, it's like saying we're "addicted to air". Are we? That seems semantic to me. Fat is vital, so that comparison is at least somewhat apt.
Is it sugar or is it highly palatable foods that are high in sugar and fat like donuts, cheesecake etc?
quote:I don't find this supposedly linear logic to be compelling. If cocaine is so addictive, then why aren't people growing coca plants and eating them with every meal? Same question with alcohol - why not just drink Everclear and get er done instead of having a mixed drink? I don't find the notion that you have put forward of the delivery mechanism being irrelevant to be persuasive.
Again if sugar is so addicting then how come don't ever here of people saying "I can't stop eating table sugar? Or "help, I drank the whole bottle of honey"?
quote:How is crack?
Sugar is not addicting. Eating highly palatable foods can be an emotional crutch though. But sugar is not like crack.
quote:Another logical leap that I don't get...sugar is extremely cheap. Why would there be "sugar bums"?
Funny I never see sugar bums on the street.
quote:Right. The substance is so addictive that people will knowingly run their health into the ground - potentially causing pain, financial distress and early death. Additionally, once in that state, they have a very hard time getting out of it.
I do see fat people everywhere that love the easy access to highly palatable foods that are cheap and comforting. Many of these same people can't even be bothered to walk the grocery store anymore to buy those foods, instead they ride the scooter or now they get the curbside delivery option and never leave their vehicle. These same people are lucky if they take 1500 steps in a day and that's in a good day.
quote:The entire point is that it is so addictive that it makes it more difficult for you to "hit your macros".
And ftr sugar doesn't make you fat one damn bit so long as you hit your macros.
Just to be clear - I'm not making excuses. I'm just saying it's an addictive substance. That means one needs to realize that and plan accordingly. It's also possible that some people are more genetically pre-disposed to "can't say no" to sugar. Certainly you agree that exists for alcohol, no?
Posted on 11/6/19 at 1:37 pm to Big Scrub TX
No it isn't. Sugar is not physically addictive in any way shape or form like cocaine or opoids. Quit being a dumbass.
You don't go through physical withdrawal with you stop eating sugar.
And yes you are making excuses.
And you claim I am making logical leaps or fallacies, yet you have zero prove sugar is physically addicting.
People don't grow coca plants because to turn it into cocaine is illegal and again it's hard work. People are adverse to hard work.
As far as the pre disposed to not be able to say no to alcohol, I personally believe it's a personality disorder and in most cases a learned behavior. But alcohol is physically addicting, sugar isn't. And there is zero proof one is pre disposed to not being able to say no.
Bottom line is, OP either needs to be able to manage the sugar to fit into his overall macros or needs to stop being a little bitch and stop eating it.
Done with the thread and the whole poor baby, it's so hard bullshite.
You don't go through physical withdrawal with you stop eating sugar.
And yes you are making excuses.
And you claim I am making logical leaps or fallacies, yet you have zero prove sugar is physically addicting.
People don't grow coca plants because to turn it into cocaine is illegal and again it's hard work. People are adverse to hard work.
As far as the pre disposed to not be able to say no to alcohol, I personally believe it's a personality disorder and in most cases a learned behavior. But alcohol is physically addicting, sugar isn't. And there is zero proof one is pre disposed to not being able to say no.
Bottom line is, OP either needs to be able to manage the sugar to fit into his overall macros or needs to stop being a little bitch and stop eating it.
Done with the thread and the whole poor baby, it's so hard bullshite.
Posted on 11/6/19 at 2:03 pm to lsu777
quote:I'm not sure this is even true.
You don't go through physical withdrawal with you stop eating sugar.
quote:
Bottom line is, OP either needs to be able to manage the sugar to fit into his overall macros or needs to stop being a little bitch and stop eating it.
Done with the thread and the whole poor baby, it's so hard bullshite.
Just because I'm good at managing my diet doesn't mean we aren't still dealing with a population of fallible humans. I think you're stance on this is not scientific and is a bizarre hill to die on.
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