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re: Sugar is like crack. How to stop eating itPosted by lsu777 on 11/6/19 at 2:07 pm to Big Scrub TX
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. I think you're stance on this is not scientific and is a bizarre hill to die on.
That's funny, because there are no studies that show it is addicting.
re: Sugar is like crack. How to stop eating itPosted by Big Scrub TX on 11/6/19 at 3:42 pm to lsu777
quote:Again, it seems like more semantics than anything else. It seems self evident that it has addictive qualities.
That's funny, because there are no studies that show it is addicting.
A paper in that direction
A paper in the other direction
I don't know what your endgame is here. The rewards to the brain to eating sugar have some "addictive qualities". This makes it harder at the margin to stop eating sugar than to, say, stop eating foie gras. It is what it is. I don't see what the big controversy is.
re: Sugar is like crack. How to stop eating itPosted by Rand AlThor on 11/7/19 at 3:13 pm to pwejr88
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Oh really?
Well it got me from sugar to no sugar.
I would say it’s good advice considering I lived it.
only a matter of time until you’re back to eating sugar because you’re still eating shite that is a substitute, wishing it was the real thing (that is unhealthy anyway, sugar or not)
re: Sugar is like crack. How to stop eating itPosted by lsu777 on 11/7/19 at 4:48 pm to Rand AlThor
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that is unhealthy anyway, sugar or not
Got proof sugar substitute is unhealthy?
This post was edited on 11/7 at 4:49 pm
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re: Sugar is like crack. How to stop eating itPosted by lsu777 on 11/8/19 at 8:20 am to Rand AlThor
Ok going to teach you something, when you read things like this and it doesn't lost a citation, that means it is an opinion and there are no studies that prove this
This means it was observation only, in other words no proof and the real cause could be that they ate more calories than They burned
How did it note this if it was an observation study you may ask......well it was based on self reporting. Self reporting has been proven to be off by as much as 50%. Completely unreliable.
Now let's see what it says when the study was controlled
Wait....that can't be, the participants lost weight? WTF, I thought it was unhealthy?
Ok so to conclude, healthline is not studies. It is articles, opinions...complete horse shite.
correlation and observation is not a study and doesn't equal causation.
It still stands that artificial sweeteners, especially sucralose, has been studied extensively and has been determined to be completely safe. Is it better than water? No not close. But is not unhealthy either when consumed in reasonable quantities.
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For some people, it may raise blood sugar and insulin levels. It may also damage the bacterial environment in your gut, but this needs to be studied in humans.
The safety of sucralose at high temperatures has also been questioned. You may want to avoid cooking or baking with it, as it may release harmful compounds.
This means it was observation only, in other words no proof and the real cause could be that they ate more calories than They burned
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One 8-year observational study found that people who drank more than 21 artificially sweetened beverages per week almost doubled their risk of overweight and obesity, compared with people who didn’t consume these kinds of drinks
How did it note this if it was an observation study you may ask......well it was based on self reporting. Self reporting has been proven to be off by as much as 50%. Completely unreliable.
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The same study noted that total daily calorie intake was lower in individuals who drank diet beverages despite their increase in weight. This suggests that artificial sweeteners may influence body weight in other ways than calorie intake
Now let's see what it says when the study was controlled
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In one 6-month, randomized, controlled study, people with overweight or obesity experienced moderate weight loss of 2–2.5% of their body weight when replacing caloric beverages with diet beverages or water
Wait....that can't be, the participants lost weight? WTF, I thought it was unhealthy?
Ok so to conclude, healthline is not studies. It is articles, opinions...complete horse shite.
correlation and observation is not a study and doesn't equal causation.
It still stands that artificial sweeteners, especially sucralose, has been studied extensively and has been determined to be completely safe. Is it better than water? No not close. But is not unhealthy either when consumed in reasonable quantities.
Are we still disagreeing on this?
Here it is -
just stop eating the shite. It provides zero nutrients and causes physical problems i.e. dental, if overdone.
Otherwise, I could care less if it is scientifically proven to be addictive anymore.
Here it is -
just stop eating the shite. It provides zero nutrients and causes physical problems i.e. dental, if overdone.
Otherwise, I could care less if it is scientifically proven to be addictive anymore.
quote:
Here it is -
just stop eating the shite. It provides zero nutrients and causes physical problems i.e. dental, if overdone.
Otherwise, I could care less if it is scientifically proven to be addictive anymore
Oh I agree. Pretty much my point from the beginning. But no I was talking about sugar substitutes being "terrible for you"
re: Sugar is like crack. How to stop eating itPosted by FlexDawg on 11/15/19 at 5:29 pm to Hammond Tiger Fan
This is what I did:
Cold turkey and suffer. Once you’re off of it long enough you won’t remember what it tastes like and you won’t crave it.
People ask me all the time “how are you so disciplined?”. I just tell them I don’t eat the shite and so I don’t even remember what it tastes like. All I know now are how healthy foods taste. It’s not a big deal to me but it’s hard for others to relate when they’re just used to sitting on their arse eating shite all day.
Cold turkey and suffer. Once you’re off of it long enough you won’t remember what it tastes like and you won’t crave it.
People ask me all the time “how are you so disciplined?”. I just tell them I don’t eat the shite and so I don’t even remember what it tastes like. All I know now are how healthy foods taste. It’s not a big deal to me but it’s hard for others to relate when they’re just used to sitting on their arse eating shite all day.
This post was edited on 11/15 at 5:33 pm
re: Sugar is like crack. How to stop eating itPosted by JinFL on 11/15/19 at 6:39 pm to Hammond Tiger Fan
I ended up going the very low carb route, pretty much zero sugar. If I want a late snack, gonna be sugar free peanut butter on celery, beef jerkey, or pork skins. I chase it though at times with the Knob creek or vodka of some type.
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