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re: Still fat at 165 :(

Posted on 9/18/18 at 10:21 am to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/18/18 at 10:21 am to
yea when i went from 242 to 182 everyone kept asking if everything was ok, if i was sick.....i usually just replied yes sick and tired of being a fatass. Usually shut them up.
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10406 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 10:22 am to
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Yea but in general 99% of people have no idea how low they have to get bodyweight wise to get to belwo 10%


A big part of this is fake numbers that get put out for "body transformation" articles by celebs or athletes.

Everyone trumpets they got to 4-5% when it's at least double that. I've seen claims of 0% body fat even though that's scientifically impossible.

Those claims skew the perception of the general public. Being under 10% for extended periods isn't healthy for the average person.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
30924 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 10:31 am to
quote:

A big part of this is fake numbers that get put out for "body transformation" articles by celebs or athletes.

Everyone trumpets they got to 4-5% when it's at least double that. I've seen claims of 0% body fat even though that's scientifically impossible.

Those claims skew the perception of the general public. Being under 10% for extended periods isn't healthy for the average person.


100% agree.

Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
24830 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 10:58 am to
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What do you think the cardio is achieving besides burning up muscle


This. Anything past 22 minutes is working against you, if your goal is to add muscle. Our body goes into flight mode and holds onto that fat.
Posted by KajunKouyon
White Castle, LA
Member since Jun 2012
2377 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 11:29 am to
I’ve been going for about 2 months now and have only lost a few pounds and still look like a fatass. I think my diet is good but I’m not seeing the results I would like. Pretty discouraging
This post was edited on 9/18/18 at 11:50 am
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10406 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 11:41 am to
Yeah. Based on that pic, I'm probably personally around 15-17%. I can see ab outlines, shoulder/bicep separation and arm veins. I carry enough fat in my outer chest I'm probably not in the 13-15% range.

In terms of bf% to just cruise at, that's more or less fine for me. I'm not trying to be a fitness model over here. Plus, I'd clearly have to start using baby oil if I was under 10%.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
30924 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 11:44 am to
quote:

I’ve been going for about 2 months now and have only lost a few Linda and still look like a fatass. I think my diet is good but I’m not seeing the results I would like. Pretty discouraging


listen to me and that won't be a problem.
Posted by KajunKouyon
White Castle, LA
Member since Jun 2012
2377 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 11:50 am to
Do you have any material to email? I tried your GreySkull thread and I got confused
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167021 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 11:51 am to
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I carry 164lbs of lean muscle getting down to 12%. Anything below that and I will start losing some muscle. This is per dexa.


I have about the same lean mass as you right now at 21% according to dexa as well. I want to get down to 15% and not lose muscle so I cut out cardio starting today and am just going to hit the weights. Besides my BCAAs and taking my weight to grams in Whey what else would you recommend to keep muscle and only burn the fat? I am eating pretty lean too.
This post was edited on 9/18/18 at 12:25 pm
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
30924 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 12:46 pm to
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Do you have any material to email? I tried your GreySkull thread and I got confused


this isnt that hard.

lift heavy and progressively 3 days a week. press/squat/bench are all 3x5+ meaning last set you do as many reps as possible.

Deadlift is 1x5+ on eset to complete failure

curls- 2x 12-15 so try to fail in the 12-15 range. add 2.5lbs when you can do 15 for both sets

chins- 2x6-8- try and fail in the 6-8 range. when you can do 8 reps on both sets, add 2.5 lbs.

Deads and squats add 5lbs per session. all others 2.5 per.


week 1



Day 1
press
squat
weighted chin


Day 2

Bench
deadlift
curls

Day 3
repeat day 1



week 2



Day 1
squat
bench
curls


Day 2

press
deadlift
weighted chins

Day 3
repeat day 1


walk 60 min every morning fasted

nutrition LINK

select leangains calculator and plug the numbers it gives you in myfitness pal. hit those macros daily or close to it.

ask if you have more questions.
Posted by KajunKouyon
White Castle, LA
Member since Jun 2012
2377 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 12:55 pm to
Awesome! Thanks dude

I know you were all doing a burpee challenge in your other thread, is this necessary or just an added benefit to this workout plan?

Also I couldn’t swing an hour fasted walk in the morning. I wake up way to early for this. Could I do the walk before I lift or after instead?
This post was edited on 9/18/18 at 12:57 pm
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32015 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 12:58 pm to
Problem 1-stop worrying about a number on the scale.

Lift heavy, eat lean, stay consistant.

Im 5'7 and 155lbs... And extremely happy with how my body looks. I was 183 a few yrs ago.. got down to 140.. and i look 100x better at 155 than 140.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
30924 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

I have about the same lean mass as you right now at 21% according to dexa as well. I want to get down to 15% and not lose muscle so I cut out cardio starting today and am just going to hit the weights. Besides my BCAAs and taking my weight to grams in Whey what else would you recommend to keep muscle and only burn the fat? I am eating pretty lean too.


for the record i am no where near 12% at the moment was jsut using it was reference.

i recommend same as above. 360 min of fasted walking a week. 3 day heavy progressive lifting.

nutrition calculator i linked above and following those macros. make sure to choose leangains diet on the calc.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 1:06 pm to
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Anything past 22 minutes is working against you, if your goal is to add muscle. Our body goes into flight mode and holds onto that fat.


. I'm not saying that there isn't a point where your body goes into a metabolic state where it just throws the kitchen sink in and you start burning way more than you intend (protein, glycogen, fat, whatever it can find). But there is no 22 minute magic number. It's more about exertion than time. That whole "fat burning" zone that people like to think is a myth is real. Yes it's a myth that you'll lose body fat by just working out for 30 minutes a day in that zone compared to other "zones", but you can go for a long time at that metabolic rate before eating away all your muscle mass. It's when you aren't efficient enough, or when you just exert more that you get into that "flight mode". If you are fit and efficient, you can stay away from it for hours.

I will agree that excessive cardio is going to restrict ability to grow or maintain muscle mass. But it's more due to calories (if done correctly). Same way you'll have a hard time gaining muscle in a cut phase I would imagine.
This post was edited on 9/19/18 at 1:20 pm
Posted by Bonkers119
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2015
10058 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 1:25 pm to
I'm 5'11 170 and I think I look skinny. I have added 20lbs in the last year, but I still have a ways to go. I want to get to 185-190. My main problem has been with my stomach. Kind of got a pooch going on that I'm not happy about.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31402 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 1:49 pm to
Man, that's all perfect. Among my running, swimming, biking, and skiing, I get a lot of general "exercise," and I do those things a lot, so i don't really want to bulk up.

Tim Ferriss just has me paranoid that my arms are going to fall off in a couple years, if I don't do hip hinge kettlebell swings .

Simple is better for me.
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167021 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 2:12 pm to
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lsu777


As always I appreciate the advice
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22151 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 5:07 pm to
I'm glad you enjoy writing all that stuff all the time. I've lost my mojo.

I've just lost interest in the health and fitness board because there is nothing but skinny people who think they are big and those people who run for fun.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
30924 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 7:41 pm to
Been on the verge of quiting the board mutiple times lately because of this and the Hardline keto guys.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
47116 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 8:11 pm to
Count inches, not pounds.

Arbitrarily picking a weight and dropping to it without regard to anything else except just losing pounds will result in shite results; unless, of course, you weigh 300+ lbs at 40%+ body fat.
This post was edited on 9/18/18 at 8:17 pm
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