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re: Started Crossfit

Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:17 am to
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:17 am to
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Yea who would want to burn fat & develop total body coordination & muscular strength, among other things


I forgot that power cleans and barbell snatches are the only way to do that. My apologies. I do some kettlebell snatches, kettlebell swings, squats, ring dips, all that stuff. I just have no interest in that type of olympic lifting anymore. There's really no need for it in general health.

Like I said, if you want to do it then do it. I just said that I didn't want to and you got really defensive about it. Guess what, CrossFit isn't the only way to workout.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290753 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:18 am to
I’m not saying that’s the only way to do that, but to act like they wouldn’t benefit someone who has an office job is silly
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87362 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:20 am to
I don't like them, but that dislike is not even close to making me look elsewhere. I enjoy the place to the extent that I was really pissed when I gave up on yesterday's workout.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22542 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:23 am to
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It’s the most efficient way to lift a heavy arse load overhead.


I'd argue the clean and jerk is as you can lift heavier weight. Snatch is more technical.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:24 am to
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I’m not saying that’s the only way to do that, but to act like they wouldn’t benefit someone who has an office job is silly


Well that's not at all what I said. I said, thats not what I want to do. I said two times if it is then that's fine too, but you obviously ignored it twice. The "benefit" is an overall elhealthy lifestyle that I can achieve others ways, I don't see any other real benefit of being able to power clean 350 lbs other than being able to which is fine if that's your goal.

I'm not understanding why you can't distinguish against my personal preference and others.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290753 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:29 am to
Well you started it by saying power clean and snatches are what’s wrong with CrossFit

Then you said they have no benefits. If they don’t fit your workout, then that is your personal preference. But to say there is no benefit is false. Saying that that is what is wrong with CrossFit because you don’t like them does not hold water either. You need to find a better way to say what you mean.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84431 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:32 am to
I still do barbell squats, and if the bench press is available I'll use it.

I want to learn how to snatch and clean or whatever.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:36 am to
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This is the problem I have with CrossFit. I do alot of CrossFit things, but I have no interest in doing power cleans and snatches (although I do some dumbbell snatches). The stuff I do is similar as in the high intensity rounds and such, but I have no reason to do all those lifts


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I have no reason to be doing power cleans as a dude with an office job. Like I said, I incorporate a lot of the circuit training stuff, but I don't want to pay $150 a month to do that stuff.

If you want to, by all means, go for. Just not for me. Neither one of us is right or wrong


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I forgot that power cleans and barbell snatches are the only way to do that. My apologies. I do some kettlebell snatches, kettlebell swings, squats, ring dips, all that stuff. I just have no interest in that type of olympic lifting anymore. There's really no need for it in general health.

Like I said, if you want to do it then do it. I just said that I didn't want to and you got really defensive about it. Guess what, CrossFit isn't the only way to workout.


quote:

Well that's not at all what I said. I said, thats not what I want to do. I said two times if it is then that's fine too, but you obviously ignored it twice. The "benefit" is an overall elhealthy lifestyle that I can achieve others ways, I don't see any other real benefit of being able to power clean 350 lbs other than being able to which is fine if that's your goal.

I'm not understanding why you can't distinguish against my personal preference and others.


This are my 4 posts in their entirety. If you could point out where I said any of those things I'd appreciate. Thanks in advance.

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You need to find a better way to say what you mean.


U need two lerne to Reed gud



Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290753 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:01 am to
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This is the problem I have with CrossFit.



quote:

I have no reason to be doing power cleans as a dude with an office job.



I’m not defensive just searching for clarity. We’re just talking here baw, don’t get upset.

When you say you have no reason to do those things that comes off as they have no benefit to someone with an office job. When In reality you have a lot of reasons to do those,

And the first part I quoted you are pretty specific in saying you have a problem with those things being included in CrossFit

So maybe you can clarify what you mean when you say as a guy with an office job you have no reason to do them or why those are the things wrong with crosssfot.

Like why would a guy with an office job need to do dumbbell snatches or ring dips either? What exactly are the difference?
This post was edited on 1/4/18 at 11:02 am
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:05 am to
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So maybe you can clarify what you mean when you say as a guy with an office job you have no reason to do them or why those are the things wrong with crosssfot.



You just need to learn comprehension. I made my thoughts quite clear, but you interpreted them completely wrong until i had to walk you completely through it. You just wanted to make the things I said into something different to defend CrossFit. I said numerous times if that's what you want to do, but it's not what I wanted to do while paying twice the price for it.
Posted by Mark Makers
The LP
Member since Jul 2015
2414 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:25 am to
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Snatches and cleans are my favorite


I agree with this, I hadn't done these lifts since high school football 12 years ago and am glad that Crossfit brought them back for me
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:30 am to
Why do you hate deadlifting, snatching, cleaning? Is it the challenge?

Personally, I love the deadlift... it's just raw, unbridled power and you vs. the weight. Straightforward and yet difficult. Yes you have to keep your form in check but that's just staying tight through the lift.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87362 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:34 am to
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Why do you hate deadlifting, snatching, cleaning? Is it the challenge?

I just have a really hard time getting the weight started. I have very short arms. I think that makes me closer to the ground than most.

I don't really hate cleans. I hate snatch due to the wide grip and the going straight to overhead with no similar clean position. I am very scared for my shoulders due to past injuries.

Pretty sure I was the only person at the state meets in HS that squatted more than he dead-lifted.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:39 am to
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I have very short arms

For some reason that made me think of a T-Rex trying to deadlift, so I google'd that and was not disappointed.


LINK




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I am very scared for my shoulders due to past injuries.


I can understand that. The only time i've had sore knees from CF was from multiple days of snatching. I'm using knee sleeves now for any squats, cleans, or snatches just to be safe.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290753 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:40 am to
So maybe you can clarify what you mean when you say as a guy with an office job you have no reason to do them or why those are the things wrong with crosssfit
Posted by NOLALGD
Member since May 2014
2754 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:42 am to
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It is the older you get. The first thing that goes is your explosive strength and that’s the best way to train it as well as being a functional movement to help with everyday lifestyle activities (such as putting the Christmas tree back in the attic).


Whatever dude, there are many great ways to train for explosive strength and functional movements, you ever seen elite rock climbers or even ninja warrior competitors? Personally, I would enjoy both of those more than Olympic lifts.

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If you’re adamant against the oly movements then try out Orange Theory.


This is the type of comment that causes people to dislike CF, there are many awesome weightlifting programs that don't involve Olympic lifts.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:43 am to
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So maybe you can clarify what you mean when you say as a guy with an office job you have no reason to do them or why those are the things wrong with crosssfit


Unless you are competing in Olympic lifting there is really no reason to do it. There are other ways to achieve overall health and fitness. Olympic lifting is one of those ways, but not one that I want to do. It's not that hard to understand man. You're just trying to be a hardass.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126745 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:57 am to
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Read my follow up. BTW, GFY


an old dude who doesn't know shite about fitness
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126745 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:59 am to
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I want to learn how to snatch and clean or whatever.


A full snatch is probably the hardest movement for me. I just suck at the overhead squat
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290753 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:07 pm to
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Unless you are competing in Olympic lifting there is really no reason to do it.


Lol that’s stupid

Can you only play on the rings if you’re doing gymnasts regularly? Cmon

Can you only run or row if you do it competitive? Can you only squat if you’re competing in powerlifting?



Don’t go getting mad at me because you don’t make any sense. You can’t sit here and act like the only benefit of oly lifting is if you are competing in it. foolish
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