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Red Meat does not Cause Heart Disease- new study
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:17 am
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:17 am
New Meta Analysis puts to bed the myth that red meat consumption causes cardiovascular disease. So can all the guys who like to claim this and scream "MuH CHINA STUDY!!" please stop??
LINK
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:19 am to lsu777
My only issue with this is that if you look at previous examples, like eggs, new studies keep going back and forth.
I'm grilling a steak tonight in honor of this study.
I'm grilling a steak tonight in honor of this study.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:22 am to lsu777
I never really bought in to the idea that eating animals could be that unhealthy for us.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:29 am to Oates Mustache
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My only issue with this is that if you look at previous examples, like eggs, new studies keep going back and forth.
not really in the well designed studies and certainly not in meta analysis. what you saw in the 80s was not studies and more just single people saying that and the government saying it with no causation studies to back it up.
all you have to do is go look at the studies from the 36 eggs a day for burn victims
LINK
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Eight severely burned young patients were maintained on an oral hyperalimentation regimen of about 7,000 calories--including 314 proteins, 600 g carbohydrates and 336 g fats, containing greater than 8 g cholesterol--based mainly on a daily ingestion of 35 eggs. Serum cholesterol and protein, and plasma lipoprotein levels were measured during period of 30 days on the diet. The mean serum cholesterol level prior to the egg-rich diet was low [108 +/- 42 (SD) mg/dl] and it remained within the normal range during the study.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:58 am to lsu777
Imagine if you got severely burned and they strapped you to a bed and force fed you 36 eggs per day
Posted on 11/17/22 at 12:05 pm to el Gaucho
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Imagine if you got severely burned and they strapped you to a bed and force fed you 36 eggs per day
shite, they force fed 7k calories
frick that.
of course i would prolly be better off doing 36 eggs a day for like 3 months.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:34 pm to lsu777
I was never going to stop eating red meat anyway.
Posted on 11/18/22 at 12:36 pm to lsu777
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Harvard's T.H. Chan School of Public Health issued a statement that the new advice could potentially harm people's health. "This new red meat and processed meat recommendation was based on flawed methodology and a misinterpretation of nutritional evidence," says Dr. Frank Hu, chair of the Department of Nutrition. "The authors used a method often applied to randomized clinical trials for drugs and devices, which is typically not feasible in nutritional studies."
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In spite of what the Annals of Internal Medicine study suggests, Dr. Hu says that an accumulated body of evidence shows a clear link between high intake of red and processed meats and a higher risk for heart disease, cancer, diabetes, and premature death. "The evidence is consistent across different studies," he says.
Posted on 11/18/22 at 12:55 pm to lsu777
Was there ever a doubt? Looking at the numbers in the correct context solved that.
But we all knew that anyway.
Glad to see this making the rounds.
But we all knew that anyway.
Glad to see this making the rounds.
Posted on 11/18/22 at 2:15 pm to lsu777
Nice im making wagyu burgers tonight.
But i was never going to stop eating red meat anyway. They basically lied to us about our diets and told us to get rid of animal fat and stuff our faces with processed carbs.
Now we still have heart disease as the number one problem and an epidemic of diabetes.
But i was never going to stop eating red meat anyway. They basically lied to us about our diets and told us to get rid of animal fat and stuff our faces with processed carbs.
Now we still have heart disease as the number one problem and an epidemic of diabetes.
Posted on 11/18/22 at 2:17 pm to Zappas Stache
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In spite of what the Annals of Internal Medicine study suggests, Dr. Hu says that an accumulated body of evidence shows a clear link between high intake of red and processed meats and a higher risk for heart disease, cancer, diabetes, and premature death. "The evidence is consistent across different studies," he says.
Ummm, no. The proof is in the pudding. We have been pushing against red meat my entire life and we keep getting fatter and unhealthier as a nation.
Posted on 11/18/22 at 3:00 pm to lsu777
quote:It's crazy that this is big news.
lsu777
Presently, the big push is:
animals, bad
highly processed, mono-crop based crap, good
Related, why don't you start a thread on those new recommendations out of Tufts that are likely to inform the next bit of government involvement in killing Americans through diet?
Posted on 11/18/22 at 8:54 pm to lsu777
Meat: the original human food
Posted on 11/19/22 at 7:39 am to lsu777
My impression of every study that concluded red meat is bad was that most studies on the people who ate copious amounts of red meat did NOT control for the other factors of those groups of people. In other words they didn't control for physical activity or things like, if they ate vegetables with red meat, or if they were more prone to unhealthy life choices like smoking and drinking.
This post was edited on 11/19/22 at 7:42 am
Posted on 11/19/22 at 2:50 pm to tiggerthetooth
quote:It's truly mind blowing that arguably the single most healthful food available to humans has been demonized to the point of people actually believing it's worse for you than, say, Honey Nut Cheerios.
Red Meat does not Cause Heart Disease- new study
My impression of every study that concluded red meat is bad was that most studies on the people who ate copious amounts of red meat did NOT control for the other factors of those groups of people. In other words they didn't control for physical activity or things like, if they ate vegetables with red meat, or if they were more prone to unhealthy life choices like smoking and drinking.
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