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Red Meat does not Cause Heart Disease- new study

Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:17 am
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:17 am



New Meta Analysis puts to bed the myth that red meat consumption causes cardiovascular disease. So can all the guys who like to claim this and scream "MuH CHINA STUDY!!" please stop??

LINK

Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
26630 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:19 am to
My only issue with this is that if you look at previous examples, like eggs, new studies keep going back and forth.

I'm grilling a steak tonight in honor of this study.
Posted by FieldEngineer
Member since Jan 2015
2986 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:22 am to
I never really bought in to the idea that eating animals could be that unhealthy for us.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38048 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:29 am to
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My only issue with this is that if you look at previous examples, like eggs, new studies keep going back and forth.



not really in the well designed studies and certainly not in meta analysis. what you saw in the 80s was not studies and more just single people saying that and the government saying it with no causation studies to back it up.

all you have to do is go look at the studies from the 36 eggs a day for burn victims

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Eight severely burned young patients were maintained on an oral hyperalimentation regimen of about 7,000 calories--including 314 proteins, 600 g carbohydrates and 336 g fats, containing greater than 8 g cholesterol--based mainly on a daily ingestion of 35 eggs. Serum cholesterol and protein, and plasma lipoprotein levels were measured during period of 30 days on the diet. The mean serum cholesterol level prior to the egg-rich diet was low [108 +/- 42 (SD) mg/dl] and it remained within the normal range during the study.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
59177 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:58 am to
Imagine if you got severely burned and they strapped you to a bed and force fed you 36 eggs per day
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38048 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

Imagine if you got severely burned and they strapped you to a bed and force fed you 36 eggs per day


shite, they force fed 7k calories

frick that.

of course i would prolly be better off doing 36 eggs a day for like 3 months.
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
15075 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:34 pm to
I was never going to stop eating red meat anyway.
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:45 pm to
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
43144 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 12:36 pm to
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Harvard's T.H. Chan School of Public Health issued a statement that the new advice could potentially harm people's health. "This new red meat and processed meat recommendation was based on flawed methodology and a misinterpretation of nutritional evidence," says Dr. Frank Hu, chair of the Department of Nutrition. "The authors used a method often applied to randomized clinical trials for drugs and devices, which is typically not feasible in nutritional studies."


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In spite of what the Annals of Internal Medicine study suggests, Dr. Hu says that an accumulated body of evidence shows a clear link between high intake of red and processed meats and a higher risk for heart disease, cancer, diabetes, and premature death. "The evidence is consistent across different studies," he says.
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
9228 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 12:55 pm to
Was there ever a doubt? Looking at the numbers in the correct context solved that.

But we all knew that anyway.

Glad to see this making the rounds.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89786 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 2:15 pm to
Nice im making wagyu burgers tonight.

But i was never going to stop eating red meat anyway. They basically lied to us about our diets and told us to get rid of animal fat and stuff our faces with processed carbs.

Now we still have heart disease as the number one problem and an epidemic of diabetes.

Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89786 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 2:17 pm to
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In spite of what the Annals of Internal Medicine study suggests, Dr. Hu says that an accumulated body of evidence shows a clear link between high intake of red and processed meats and a higher risk for heart disease, cancer, diabetes, and premature death. "The evidence is consistent across different studies," he says.


Ummm, no. The proof is in the pudding. We have been pushing against red meat my entire life and we keep getting fatter and unhealthier as a nation.

Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39856 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 3:00 pm to
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lsu777
It's crazy that this is big news.

Presently, the big push is:

animals, bad

highly processed, mono-crop based crap, good



Related, why don't you start a thread on those new recommendations out of Tufts that are likely to inform the next bit of government involvement in killing Americans through diet?
Posted by OldHickory
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2012
10819 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 8:54 pm to
Meat: the original human food
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64364 posts
Posted on 11/19/22 at 7:39 am to
My impression of every study that concluded red meat is bad was that most studies on the people who ate copious amounts of red meat did NOT control for the other factors of those groups of people. In other words they didn't control for physical activity or things like, if they ate vegetables with red meat, or if they were more prone to unhealthy life choices like smoking and drinking.
This post was edited on 11/19/22 at 7:42 am
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39856 posts
Posted on 11/19/22 at 2:50 pm to
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Red Meat does not Cause Heart Disease- new study
My impression of every study that concluded red meat is bad was that most studies on the people who ate copious amounts of red meat did NOT control for the other factors of those groups of people. In other words they didn't control for physical activity or things like, if they ate vegetables with red meat, or if they were more prone to unhealthy life choices like smoking and drinking.
It's truly mind blowing that arguably the single most healthful food available to humans has been demonized to the point of people actually believing it's worse for you than, say, Honey Nut Cheerios.
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