re: “Prediabetes” Diet

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drink lots of water

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Meh. Drink when you're thirsty. That's a good enough governor.

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As far as what's more effective, I'm sure there are a number of studies that would prove either argument to be correct, depending on where you looked. And I'm sure each party would dismiss the other's study because of something which they see as flawed.

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That pretty much sums up fitness and nutrition in general.

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The point is, we don't have to worry about these things, and if your preferred method of activity is cardio, who cares? Set your TDEE, hit your macros, make sure you're getting your appropriate vitamin levels, and move on.

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100%

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As far as what's more effective, I'm sure there are a number of studies that would prove either argument to be correct, depending on where you looked. And I'm sure each party would dismiss the other's study because of something which they see as flawed.

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pretty much every study shows extreme benifit to lifting, especially in strength. But there is 100% a benifit to jogging, but it is very ineffecient, but if one likes it...go ahead. Just dont expect to make body comp changes because you went and ran a mile or two.

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I can run 10 miles without stopping. My buddy back home who lifts heavy 4-5 days a week would be screwed if he ever was in a scenario in which he needed to run more than a mile. Which is fine. Because, as it currently stands, if there was some scenario in which I needed to use my muscle to save my life, I'd be in bad shape and he'd be rosy.

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now ask yourself...when and where would anyone need to run more than a mile, hell more than a 1/4 mile? Whats more benificial in a real life scenerio...being able to run 100m fast as frick or being able to job for 10 min straight? Whats more realistic, needing to jog 10 min or needing to carry a heavy bag and ruck for 25?

now do the same for lifting vs jogging. Lifting and being stronger helps you defeend yourself and your family, jogging does not. Lifting helps you look much better and protects you against the effects of aging, jogging doesnt. Lifting is goign to help body comp which in turn helps you maintain better health, jogging....maybe only a little in initial stages for very overweight individuals.


but in the end the whole arguement is dumb because people are going to do what they like. They should prolly try and do activities they hate more often, but most pepole are not going to do that. I am 100% guilty of that.

Btw most people would be much much better off swimming, biking or rowing vs running from a body wear and tear stand point. IMO when you weigh the type of wear jogging and sprinting puts on the body....we should prolly only be doing hill sprints, prowler pushes and sled drags when it comes to running in general.

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Box jumps are such a mind frick for me. I am on year 3 and I only started 20" box jumps a year ago, and during this open I got 24" box jumps, turns out it's 90% in my head. I was so scared I was shaking and when I completed a set I literally frickin cried out of pride. As someone whose been obese his whole life, that was a huge deal. Next is pull-ups.

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I loved reading this

awesome stuff Hulk

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A1C heading in the wrong direction. I run 4-5 times a week but sweets, bread, and fried stuff do me in. Is it as simple as cutting that out? Should i be more intense with a low/no carb diet completely at this point? Any advice. Need to drop 40 lbs if I’m honest with myself.

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Yes. I was where you are and I dropped 45 pounds and the blood numbers are perfect now. Drastically cut the carbs, eliminate sweets, fried , and the other crap. Track carbs and calories. Be honest. As a type II diabetic you are going directly downhill. You know it. Be honest with yourself. Learn about food and never go back.

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Just dont expect to make body comp changes because you went and ran a mile or two.

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Who is expecting this?

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now ask yourself...when and where would anyone need to run more than a mile, hell more than a 1/4 mile

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As someone with no vehicle who rides their bike to work, if I ever wake up with a flat tire, I will 100% be glad that I can run 8 miles without stopping. It'll take me a bit longer, but I'll get there.

But that's not me advocating one way or another. That's me saying that there are near 8 billion people on earth, and because it makes sense for those around you to strength train rather than train cardio, that doesn't mean it makes sense for everyone.

It's just such a weird argument to be so against jogging. It's healthy as frick. Do I only jog? No. I long distance cycle, I jog, I sprint, I do body weight workouts, and if I had my own equipment I'd lift. The only reason I don't currently lift is because gyms are more hassle than their worth for someone like me who spent over a decade building up way more muscle than the average person.

Rapid loss of muscle as we age is a real issue and lifting will soon become priority. But that doesn't mean I'm gonna take a holier than thou stance because someone wants to eat vegan and do cardio. It's so bizarre to me that some posters on this board make it their life mission to spit on those lifestyles, even when they're done by people who are in shape. However when someone with no experience starts 5/3/1 and doesn't understand that lifting heavy requires proper form, they get about one tenth of the shite.

Stop being threatened by other peoples health choices.

Good luck with your journey OP.. while I’m obese, I have cut out all sugary drinks. Everything. I drink either water or SF Gatorade . And quit it cold turkey almost 3 years ago.

If you do the math , like let’s say a Dr Pepper has 45 grams of sugar ... times 10.. that’s a pound of sugar.. over a couple of weeks of slugging those down, that is a five pound bag of sugar youve rammed through your kidneys . It’s wild thinking in those terms . But it’s true . And was a wake up call to me


That’s really helped my blood sugar . Diabetes runs rampant in my family history for generations. I check it often just to
Keep tabs . And again. Good luck .

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The 25 lbs I lost when I started running didn’t improve my body comp long term

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It's such a silly thing to say with such surety, especially when you get down to a granular level, we don't even know WHY exercise is good for you long-term.

It'd be more accurate to say that they've read studies that suggest resistance training is more effective long term than jogging. And even then, those studies are so loosely controlled that you can't say anything with certainty. Anyone who doesn't devote their life to studying exercise since that says they know one way or another is just full of it.

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It'd be more accurate to say that they've read studies that suggest resistance training is more effective long term than jogging. And even then, those studies are so loosely controlled that you can't say anything with certainty. Anyone who doesn't devote their life to studying exercise since that says they know one way or another is just full of it.

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Some of us aren’t blind.

It’s cool that you love jogging this much though. Good for you.

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The 25 lbs I lost when I started running didn’t improve my body comp long term? Good to know

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did you check your body fat % before and after? losing weight doesnt mean your body comp improved drastically unless you are giving your body a reason to hold onto muscle.