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re: “Prediabetes” Diet

Posted on 4/9/21 at 9:09 am to
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/9/21 at 9:09 am to
I said it’s basically useless. Not that it 100% is.

There are some cardiovascular benefits for sure, but OP wasn’t asking about that.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37983 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 11:29 am to
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However, it didn’t work for me. Running was far more effective for me in regards to weight loss.



We're you worried about weight loss or fat loss? And in general exercise in all forms burns very little in the way of calories in the grand scheme with the studies showing a heavy lifting session burning a out the same amount of calories during exercise as a jog, but lifting provided a much greater effect on calories burned over a 24 hour period and lifting does build muscle.

People can do whatever they like, but for overall health, body composition and movement quality....nothing beats resistance training. Nothing!!!

Sprinting, true sprinting, hill sprints and prowler pushesand certain forms of circuit training are the best forms of cardio for body comp.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44411 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 12:13 pm to
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Sprinting, true sprinting,


Definitely do some of this for training purposes: 800 meter intervals or tempo runs.

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exercise in all forms burns very little in the way of calories


I'll have to remember that after I burn 1,500 calories on my Saturday run.

For whatever reason, the gym didn't work for me. I went 4+ days a week for about 4 years. Mainly resistance stuff and machines. I'm not much of a free weights guy. Swam, did the elliptical and bike. I lost some weight, but got stuck and couldn't really progress. Started a 5K program and dropped 10 lbs almost immediately. Added a bit of diet and some longer distances and dropped another 15 lbs. I still do a little resistance stuff (mainly squats), but that's more for off day balancing and stability.


Again, no one in my long run group is over weight. None of them.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
69162 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:00 pm to
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Again, no one in my long run group is over weight. None of them.


No one is saying if you run long distances you won’t burn calories/be skinny.

It’s not as efficient, however, from a calorie burn perspective.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37983 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:19 pm to
Well you say you aren't really a free weight guy so more than likely, well more like 99.9% chance you were half assing it and not following a plan.

And the you "added a little diet"

Well there is your whole issue.


And you keep repeating about nobody in your long distance running group is overweight....no offense doesn't mean they still don't look like shite.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
24837 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:44 pm to
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So probably 60. Obviously fried food is bad for you, but being fat is worse.


Apparently there’s a thing called anti-diet. It’s essentially fat acceptance but you have dieticians, doctors, researchers, and whole health care facilities even that are Health At Every Size (HAES) trained professionals. I’m assuming a lot of them are money grabbers telling people what they want to hear

This was at a doctors’ office:


Just thought you’d like to see this insanity.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44411 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:45 pm to
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And you keep repeating about nobody in your long distance running group is overweight....no offense doesn't mean they still don't look like shite.





Thanks. I needed that.
Posted by NOLALGD
Member since May 2014
2755 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:23 pm to
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And you keep repeating about nobody in your long distance running group is overweight....no offense doesn't mean they still don't look like shite.


I definitely get what you mean. Also there are a lot of people on this board who workout for aesthetic reasons, which I'm fine with as long people are honest.

But compared to the overall condition of the US population, and even worse, the Louisiana population, I applaud anyone that isn't fat/obese these days no matter how they look.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
77892 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:24 pm to
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Your body adapts so easily to jogging that it’s basically useless.


BS
Posted by irishTiger18
Chicago
Member since Oct 2019
705 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:33 pm to
Downvotes are fine, but I’d appreciate some feedback if you disagree enough to DV
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
69162 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:55 pm to
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But compared to the overall condition of the US population, and even worse, the Louisiana population, I applaud anyone that isn't fat/obese these days no matter how they look.


I agree with that.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
69162 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 3:02 pm to
If you like distance running, which you obviously do, then keep doing it. I don’t care.

It’s not the most efficient way to burn calories, and if that’s your goal, then jogging isn’t the quickest way to get you there.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
77892 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 3:43 pm to
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It’s not the most efficient way to burn calories


This is true and not what you originally said. It is far from "basically useless," regardless of how long or how much one has been running. One still burns calories running, and there are additional health and fitness benefits to running over walking. If someone really dislikes running, then there are other ways to achieve all of that too. However, the idea that one adapts to running to the point of it not affecting body fat and weight is ridiculous.
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 3:44 pm
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
69162 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 4:18 pm to
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It is far from "basically useless,"


Agree to disagree then.

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One still burns calories running


With little post workout burn.

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However, the idea that one adapts to running to the point of it not affecting body fat and weight is ridiculous.


Where did I say it doesn’t affect body fat and/or weight? I’ve said it does.

But it’s inefficient and yeah, basically useless, unless you want to put 3+ miles on everyday.
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 4:19 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 4:21 pm to
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But it’s inefficient and yeah, basically useless, unless you want to put 3+ miles on everyday.



That's 20 to 30 minutes of exercise. You act like you have to run for hours to get any benefit.

As with anything balance is the right answer, cardio is important for heart health, and lifting is important for muscle retention.

This is such a weird hill for you to die on. You talked out of your arse with hyperbole at first and got called out. Take your L, move on.
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 4:22 pm
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
69162 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 5:54 pm to
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This is such a weird hill for you to die on. You talked out of your arse with hyperbole at first and got called out. Take your L, move on.


I love the hustle. You try so hard to troll.

If you want to run, fricking do it - I really don’t care.
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 5:59 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 6:14 pm to
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I love the hustle. You try so hard to troll.

If you want to run, fricking do it - I really don’t care.


I guess that's why I'm getting upvotes and you're getting downvoted.

Saying something is a troll just because it proves you wrong is very low IQ. You're better than that.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63593 posts
Posted on 4/11/21 at 6:20 am to
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Also there are a lot of people on this board who workout for aesthetic reasons, which I'm fine with as long people are honest.


So? I don’t understand the point you’re trying to make.
Posted by ALTiger
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
3151 posts
Posted on 4/11/21 at 5:04 pm to
Keto. /thread
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39847 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 4:23 pm to
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fried stuff
Fried stuff doesn't have to be bad for you. If you use good oils and don't go crazy with breading, then you are fine.

Advice is to cut carbs, raise protein (via whole foods) and do resistance training.
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