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re: Pen and Paper Strength App

Posted on 5/5/26 at 9:18 pm to
Posted by Ruckingisthewaytogo
Member since Oct 2023
70 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 9:18 pm to
I’m only halfway through, but would say at this point mostly 75-80 minutes if you keep right on the rest periods, or accelerate. Prob 90 minutes with a warm up, and def looking at the later days.
Posted by biggles1883
Member since Feb 2025
52 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 1:43 pm to
Pulled an audible and decided to run Pool Season 2 for the month of May. Man these OG programs are tough to beat
Posted by jose
Member since Feb 2009
29729 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 2:18 pm to
I ended up starting 21 to party. I remember really liking that one when it did it a few years back.

Only caveat is that my bench 1RM is way heavier now than then. 83% for 3,3,3,3,4,5 yesterday wasn't fun
Posted by cfish140
BR
Member since Aug 2007
9165 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 5:55 am to
DB strength 2 has my quads and glutes POPPIN from all the split squats, goblets, and lunges. Definitely a leg heavy program
Posted by Ruckingisthewaytogo
Member since Oct 2023
70 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 10:49 am to
I feel like both of his DB programs are really leg heavy. DB 1 has legs everyday and sometimes it feels it's half of each superset. DB 2 continues to lean into the unilateral movements hard and hits in a different way, it's good too. I ran DB 2 earlier this year.
Posted by Hbkthegoat
Member since Dec 2025
9 posts
Posted on 5/13/26 at 5:11 pm to
Random question. Does anybody know the best PPSA program to build calves? I feel like I’ve done a good amount and haven’t seen results on my calves as much maybe it’s just me.
Posted by rmc
Truth or Consequences
Member since Sep 2004
27370 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 6:31 am to
I'm not sure you will find a PPSA that is calf heavy - I haven't come across one. I watched a short clip from Mike O'Hearn the other day about calves and he basically said Arnold told him they are dense muscles that require constant intense workouts to force growth. 5 days a week calf raises, 5 sets of 20 as heavy as you can.

Mike O'Hearn video re calves

Now, some are going to say you have to let them rest more than just the weekend. I don't know - it's never been a focus of mine. I'm worried about other parts of the body and don't do much in the way of isolated calf exercises.
Posted by Uncle JackD
Member since Nov 2007
59567 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 8:39 am to
Just wrapped up week 1 of FOTH. I’m liking it a lot. It’s one I can see myself running multiple times in a row.
Posted by rmc
Truth or Consequences
Member since Sep 2004
27370 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:58 am to
quote:

Just wrapped up week 1 of FOTH. I’m liking it a lot. It’s one I can see myself running multiple times in a row.


I've hit a few injuries recently that have interrupted training here and there but I finished FOTH earlier this year and I loved it. I think I did it in January before I started Benchuary. I almost went back to it recently. Decided to give Dr. Jacked a try. I'm doing Dr. Jacked but modifying it these first two weeks because of a hamstring issue so I'm going very light on squats, deadlifts and anything else that puts a fair amount of strain on the legs. Dr. Jacked is giving me a run for my money. My plan after this is to hit FOTH again or possibly look at FOTH 2.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
44928 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 10:31 am to
quote:

decided to run Pool Season 2 for the month of May.


Same biggles. I'm running it all summer.

Love Mondays and Fridays.
Posted by cfish140
BR
Member since Aug 2007
9165 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 12:19 pm to
quote:

Decided to give Dr. Jacked a try


Dr jacked and return of Dr jacked are probably my 2 favorite PPSAs. Feel like that’s the best I’ve ever looked running those back to back. They are 5x a week programs which can be tough but they’re not super long or hard, they’re just right IMO.
Posted by scfan2001
Piedmont, SC
Member since Jun 2023
53 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 12:32 pm to
I like Dr Jacked remastered best out of those two. I have the OG version, did a few days of it but switched to a mountain dog program and haven't gone back to redo it.

Jacked up joker is my favorite of all the programs.
This post was edited on 5/15/26 at 10:48 am
Posted by burgeman
Member since Jun 2008
10567 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 5:38 pm to
Are those 5 day a week programs able to be done let quick? Like under an hour?
Posted by Ag_16
Your moms house
Member since Oct 2019
3755 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 7:26 pm to
I know this isn’t the right thread but we don’t have a general questions thread on this board.
Looking for a good Upper/Lower program to run. Any suggestions on who’s to go with? Additional info on the suggested programs is much appreciated!
Posted by Ruckingisthewaytogo
Member since Oct 2023
70 posts
Posted on 5/16/26 at 7:36 am to
Summer Stacked 1/2, DB Strength 2 if you cut the rest times down. Dr Jacked remastered could be done in under an hour. Also pump city.
This post was edited on 5/16/26 at 8:15 am
Posted by biggles1883
Member since Feb 2025
52 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 8:36 am to
I do not think a single PPSA program has any calve work tbh
This post was edited on 5/18/26 at 8:38 am
Posted by biggles1883
Member since Feb 2025
52 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 8:37 am to
Same man! I also love the Thursdays. Tons of upper back/trap work mixed in with lots of back squats. Always get a great full body pump
Posted by biggles1883
Member since Feb 2025
52 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 8:39 am to
Look at Will Ratelle Hoss Programs on Train Heroic or his website. He does mainly upper/lower splits lot of compound lifts and also plyos/olympic lifts. You can skip that explosive work if you don't want to train like an athlete anymore
Posted by Ruckingisthewaytogo
Member since Oct 2023
70 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 3:13 pm to
Agreed. Feel it’s almost against his training ethos. Best bet is either tacking it onto the end of a leg heavy program like the prequel or doing things like tip toe farmer’s walks.
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
9227 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 6:25 am to
I frequently get compliments on my calves.

The only reason I have great calves is because I tore my meniscus in 2021 and the recovery-injury proofing included tons of calf work.

Backwards sled drags before every workout.

Slant board calf raises 3x week

Other Knees Over Toes essentials regularly
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