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re: Ozempic - Semaglutide/GLP-1

Posted on 4/13/23 at 9:16 am to
Posted by jose
Houma
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Posted on 4/13/23 at 9:16 am to
quote:

is there any hesitancy to prescribe these to older (55+), non obese patients that are mostly using it to drop manageable weight?



Not much. If they want to drop some manageable weight, then good for them.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 4/13/23 at 9:17 am to
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
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Posted on 4/13/23 at 9:17 am to
quote:

Not much. If they want to drop some manageable weight, then good for them.


no concern with lean mass loss?
Posted by jose
Houma
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Posted on 4/13/23 at 9:19 am to
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no concern with lean mass loss?



Not really. I realize they will lose some, but I always try and counsel all of them of getting the daily recommended exercise goals to prevent that. Now if they are doing it, is beyond me
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 4/13/23 at 9:22 am to
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I realize they will lose some


40% is more than "some". It is significant.

quote:

but I always try and counsel all of them of getting the daily recommended exercise goals to prevent that. Now if they are doing it, is beyond me


This just seems to be something that would be of more importance, at least to me.

The emphasis on how important lean mass is to overall health, how difficult it is to just maintain, much less build lean mass as we age, and how these drugs can greatly reduce the amount of lean mass should be a major concern in the those 55+ IMO

I don't know. Maybe I listen to too much Peter Attia
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53009 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 9:27 am to
No dude


Hating is bad

Let the free market decide

Why should they only let fat people get the fat people shot when they don’t even try anything to better themselves
This post was edited on 4/13/23 at 9:27 am
Posted by jose
Houma
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 4/13/23 at 9:30 am to
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The emphasis on how important lean mass is to overall health, how difficult it is to just maintain, much less build lean mass as we age, and how these drugs can greatly reduce the amount of lean mass should be a major concern in the those 55+ IMO



You're not wrong. But I see it is as an overall decrease in body weight taking pressure off they arthritic knees, lowering their high blood pressure, improving their high cholesterol. And if they are diabetic, improving their overall blood glucose control.
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/13/23 at 11:28 am to
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the studies showing a decrease in up to 40% lean mass with these weight loss drugs is very concerning to me, especially in older people, considering how difficult it is to just maintain lean mass, much less build it back up as we age


Not surprising. They are likely eating 1800 calories a day of junk and feeling full because of the shot instead of eating 1800 calories of healthy foods and protein while feeling full without the shot.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 4/13/23 at 11:47 am to
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You're not wrong. But I see it is as an overall decrease in body weight taking pressure off they arthritic knees, lowering their high blood pressure, improving their high cholesterol. And if they are diabetic, improving their overall blood glucose control.


No doubt. I get the benefits.

I guess my overall point is the importance of strength training while on these drugs.

Even moreso than normal.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
36183 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 11:51 am to
I agree with that FWIW.
If a woman sheds body weight and fat with the shot but aren’t in the gym with weights, I’d think they’d look like a flabby grandma when naked
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/13/23 at 12:05 pm to
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No doubt. I get the benefits.

I guess my overall point is the importance of strength training while on these drugs.

Even moreso than normal.


ftr i do agreee with you 1000000%. in fact those that dont lift and are older, tend to lose as much as 75% of the weight from lean tissue. much of that is water but still concerning.

but i still would rather a female be 140 at 35% bf than 240 at 50%. it is healthier despite losing ~30lbs lean tissue
Posted by tigerpride8
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2008
113 posts
Posted on 4/17/23 at 2:05 pm to
Sooo could one get the details to contact for said appointment.? Would be appreciated or if anyone knows a similarly patient focused dr preferably in the Lafayette/ BR area (will travel if necessary though)…. dspamstuff8888@gmail.com
Posted by jose
Houma
Member since Feb 2009
28594 posts
Posted on 4/17/23 at 2:20 pm to
Email sent.
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 4/17/23 at 3:13 pm to
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Now if they are doing it, is beyond me
I assure you, if they need Ozempic to lose weight they are not hitting any daily recommended exercise goals.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31138 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 7:54 am to
quote:

I assure you, if they need Ozempic to lose weight they are not hitting any daily recommended exercise goals.


thats not true bro, for many its the jump start they need and as soon as they start seeing big time results they hit overdrive and start living a much better lifestyle. but even if they have to stay on it for life, it actually has many anti aging properties and helps overall health big time.
Posted by lofty
Member since Dec 2019
404 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 7:57 am to
I'm wondering if the body builders are using this to suppress their appetite
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31138 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 8:05 am to
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I'm wondering if the body builders are using this to suppress their appetite


highly doubt it.

the studies show it burns lots of muscle and fat, but those are untrained individuals and not on protein centric diet either and not on juice.

many BBers use metformin for anti aging and to control insulin etc, but i doubt many are on glp-1, atleast at high level.
This post was edited on 4/18/23 at 8:06 am
Posted by tigerpride8
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2008
113 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 8:48 am to
Thanks…sent one small follow up question
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
6787 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 8:50 am to
quote:

I'm wondering if the body builders are using this to suppress their appetite


If you are talking about Pro Bodybuilders there is no reason. They are on so much hGH it doesn't matter. Literally. I did up to 10 iu's a day of hGH and I could eat anything and everything I wanted with no impact on getting 'fat' or bloated etc. Most the Pro's today are doing at least 20 iu's a day. No need for any suppressant when on that amount of hGH it does all the work for you.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
35158 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 9:41 am to
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No need for any suppressant when on that amount of hGH it does all the work for you.


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