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re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread

Posted on 10/24/18 at 12:21 pm to
Posted by HamCandy
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Posted on 10/24/18 at 12:21 pm to
Running the Old Man River Half in Dec. ... haven't run since the crescent city classic...

I'm here for motivation!
Posted by TigeRoots
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/24/18 at 12:30 pm to
Cool man! I looked at that one, but have a Christmas Party that day.

I just hopped in the Jazz Half in NOLA this Saturday. Should be ideal conditions for the 2nd weekend in a row.
This post was edited on 10/24/18 at 2:50 pm
Posted by StringedInstruments
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Posted on 10/24/18 at 4:23 pm to
So I’m looking ahead to 2019. Is this a doable set of goals for the year?

December 8, 2018 - First Marathon

February 2019 - Mt Cheaha 50K (supposed to be one of the harder trail runs available; 8000 elevation gain)

April 2019 - Nashville Marathon (improve PR based on December performance)

October 2019 - Chicago Marathon (if I can gain entry)

Various smaller races in between but focusing training for those three.

Only one I worry about is the 50K but I really want to try a big trail race.
Posted by BurtReynoldsMustache
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 10/24/18 at 6:00 pm to
That's a lot of marathons; very impressive list. Definitely doable. The 50ks and above I'm told is strategy. Walk the uphills, jog the flat, run the downs.

Today's run was better and faster and my heart rate was even lower.

I updated the shoe thread with a review of the New Balance 1500v4 Racing Flat.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 10/24/18 at 6:21 pm to
quote:

That's a lot of marathons; very impressive list. Definitely doable.


Those races are spread out enough for your body to take it,but it's the mental side for me. Staying on a plan pretty much all year runs me into the ground. I've come to the realization that September to June works for me, then I have to take some me time when it gets too hot. Stay active, but don't push myself for any goals.
Posted by McVick
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 10/24/18 at 7:12 pm to
I got my mid week 8 mile in, and it felt great. Temp was no higher that 60 today and the majority of my splits were between 8:25 and 8:35.
Posted by hogbody
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/24/18 at 7:46 pm to
That looks like an awesome list. Trying to put together my own list

May be overly optimistic, but hoping to use the Las Vegas marathon to guarantee qualify for Chicago

Want to run Mountain to Beach in May and maybe qualify for Boston...
Posted by McVick
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 10/24/18 at 8:58 pm to
quote:

So I’m looking ahead to 2019. Is this a doable set of goals for the year?


quote:

October 2019 - Chicago Marathon (if I can gain entry)

If for some reason Chicago doesn't work out come to Richmond in November. It's a Boston qualifier and it's over Veterans Day weekend.
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
15962 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 8:12 am to
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February 2019 - Mt Cheaha 50K (supposed to be one of the harder trail runs available; 8000 elevation gain)


Do you need to bring a support team for these 50k races, or are there enough well supplied aid stations to get away with running them alone? I would like to run one, but couldn't depend on my wife to navigate from checkpoint to checkpoint. She still gets lost in our own town.

On a personal note, I put in 12 x 500m sprints yesterday, with 9 of the 12 being at or under 6:30/mi pace. I planned on doing 8, but I forgot to adjust down the recovery time on my watch to account for the cooler weather, and ended up leaving gas in the tank. Ran 4 more, but never was able to get to full "frick these" mode.
This post was edited on 10/25/18 at 8:56 am
Posted by TigeRoots
Member since Oct 2008
8556 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 10:10 am to
For those who have done both which would you say is more difficult? A road Marathon or say a 50K trail race? When factoring in pace, terrain, etc. I realize many variables are at play, but just in general.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 10/25/18 at 10:38 am to
To me, road races are more about speed and time, while trail races are more about enjoyment.

50k is still going to hurt and most will have more elevation than road races, but I worry less about time during trail races, no matter the distance.

Not sure if that really answers your question...
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
15962 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 10:47 am to
I've done trail races, not of the 50k variety, and time and pace didn't cross my mind until the end. Too many variables, especially if you travel to an area you don't frequent. I once ran one in in a 20k trail race in Montana in which I was completely unfamiliar with the course. The locals where running for time. I was running for pure enjoyment.
Posted by TigeRoots
Member since Oct 2008
8556 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 10:50 am to
Yeah both of your answers are pretty much what I was thinking. Trail races, easier pace, take in scenery, enjoyment. Road races grueling, grinding out for pace, etc.
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
32389 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 11:20 am to
quote:

50k is still going to hurt and most will have more elevation than road races, but I worry less about time during trail races, no matter the distance.

Not sure if that really answers your question...




i agree with this. when i get done with a trail run, i don't really care if i look at my pace and see 10+ minute miles. my arms are flailing all over the place, i'm cutting back and forth, jumping over trees, dodging branches with my head, sloshing through water, etc. this last week i ran at Bastrop State park and i was booking it around 8:45-9:15 most of the flat areas. i went at the exact same pace through a zig zag of trees and i looked at my watch and my pace was around 11:30. i've yet to do a competitive trail race, but i've been told to enjoy the first one, don't try to win it.

just a whole different type of run.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
20868 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 12:03 pm to
I have no idea how guys like Walmsley can finish a 100 mile trail race with a sub-10 minute mile pace. I’ve been reading and watching videos about 100 mile races and am starting to get interested.

Seems so impossible.
This post was edited on 10/25/18 at 12:17 pm
Posted by TigeRoots
Member since Oct 2008
8556 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 12:29 pm to
Wasn’t his pace like 8:30 or something when he won Western States? Insane.
This post was edited on 10/25/18 at 12:30 pm
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
15962 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 2:29 pm to
Anyone else here find the Strava Summit features to be pretty lame? No way I would pay $60/year for this. My Garmin Connect gives me most all of the same features plus some for free. Am I overlooking something here?
Posted by TigeRoots
Member since Oct 2008
8556 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 2:42 pm to
I’ve never really looked at them. Figure I can get pretty much all I need through Polar with my watch. I’m about tapped out as far as data I’d like to track. I already look down at my watch too much.
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
32389 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 9:09 pm to
I don’t see the advantage to be honest of paying for it. I guess you could say it’s worth paying for if you want to thank them for developing the App.

I also am on map my run just for the hell of it and that thing is for amateurs and wannabe instagram whores. Strava is an insanely better app.
This post was edited on 10/25/18 at 9:13 pm
Posted by BurtReynoldsMustache
Member since Sep 2010
4837 posts
Posted on 10/26/18 at 5:07 am to
The inner competitor in me appreciates the effort calculator (which takes three weeks with a heart monitor to get accurate). Once you get your race time plugged in, it’s pretty good about what zones your runs are in.

I’m lucky enough and at a point in my life that 60 ain’t no thing so why not? But yeah, it’s less than I expected for paying and it doesn’t help that strava caters more to the bike crowd.
This post was edited on 10/26/18 at 5:09 am
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