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re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread
Posted on 1/27/21 at 12:17 pm to OysterPoBoy
Posted on 1/27/21 at 12:17 pm to OysterPoBoy
This is why I always carry baby wipes on any run that goes 3 mi beyond my house. Most of my loops are within a distance that I can waddle home if I need to.
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Posted on 1/27/21 at 4:38 pm to 1999
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the positives of running in the woods. the bathroom is all around you.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 5:33 pm to OysterPoBoy
During marathon training, I took one before every long run. Definitely saved me a few times.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 7:30 am to quail man
Question for the gallery: y’all think there is any link between shin pain and switching between low drop/high drop shoes?
Backstory: I was running daily miles in 5mm drop Hoka’s, my adult soccer league started back up about the same time my Hoka’s went flat, started running in Nikes with 10mm drop then got some other shoes between 8 and 10, have also been playing soccer twice a week. I’ve been getting pretty consistent shin pain, not debilitating but present. Just feels like tightness and I can run through it but my runs just don’t feel good. Like I’m landing heavy and slapping the pavement. Curious if switching between 0 drop/0 cushion soccer cleats on a turf field and high drop/high cushion running shoes is messing with me? Could also be I’m out of shape but
, I feel pretty fit overall.
Backstory: I was running daily miles in 5mm drop Hoka’s, my adult soccer league started back up about the same time my Hoka’s went flat, started running in Nikes with 10mm drop then got some other shoes between 8 and 10, have also been playing soccer twice a week. I’ve been getting pretty consistent shin pain, not debilitating but present. Just feels like tightness and I can run through it but my runs just don’t feel good. Like I’m landing heavy and slapping the pavement. Curious if switching between 0 drop/0 cushion soccer cleats on a turf field and high drop/high cushion running shoes is messing with me? Could also be I’m out of shape but
, I feel pretty fit overall. This post was edited on 1/29/21 at 7:31 am
Posted on 1/29/21 at 8:21 am to jordan21210
Yes. A raised heel actually puts more load on the upper part of the calf muscle. Think lady wearing high heel shoes. That extra load will be even more detrimental to weak calves. Shin splints are usually the result of relatively weak calf muscles, which is why increasing volume too quickly is often the cause. If you were running well in flatter shoes before, I would go back to that. It’s better for you anyway.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 8:24 am to LSU Patrick
Interesting. Before the Hoka’s I was running fine in normal 8 to 10 drop shoes. I suspected something because I was getting shin pain in shoes that previously haven’t given me issues, but when playing soccer I don’t have any pain. Though soccer is more walking and sprinting vs consistent pace.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 8:28 am to jordan21210
You adjusted to the lower drop shoes which was good.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 9:51 am to LSU Patrick
Full transparency here...I took a couple days off to fight the mental aspect of training.
I've been in a formal plan since July and February will be my longest & toughest month.
I'm physically great & in the best shape of my life. There is no physical overtraining issue. The problem is the stress and angst each day and run is causing. Everything is about a pace, HR , or split.
Long story short ->> It isn't fun at all at this point. If I can't hit February @ 100% commitment I'll back off and clear my mind.
I've been in a formal plan since July and February will be my longest & toughest month.
I'm physically great & in the best shape of my life. There is no physical overtraining issue. The problem is the stress and angst each day and run is causing. Everything is about a pace, HR , or split.
Long story short ->> It isn't fun at all at this point. If I can't hit February @ 100% commitment I'll back off and clear my mind.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 12:02 pm to Rsande63
quote:
Full transparency here...I took a couple days off to fight the mental aspect of training.
I've been in a formal plan since July and February will be my longest & toughest month.
I'm physically great & in the best shape of my life. There is no physical overtraining issue. The problem is the stress and angst each day and run is causing. Everything is about a pace, HR , or split.
Long story short ->> It isn't fun at all at this point. If I can't hit February @ 100% commitment I'll back off and clear my mind.
Struggling with this very thing.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 1:20 pm to Rsande63
Take off the watch and just go out and have a fun run exploring a new location.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 2:19 pm to Rsande63
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I've been in a formal plan since July
That's quite a long time, even for the most experienced runners. Perhaps you could use the down weeks in your plan to run without a watch, run somewhere new, and/or run completely by feel.
On that note, most people look to improve by running with individuals faster than them. It's important to also run with slower individuals, as they bring you back to reality.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 2:46 pm to Black n Gold
6 months is a long time to be on a plan. i am guessing this has been extended because you had a race cancellation?
Posted on 1/29/21 at 2:53 pm to 1999
1999,
Yup..about 75 % in full plan then cancelled & restarting.
Thanks for the advice of no watch , rest & new routes. I'll be back in a week or so and run by feel with no plan for a while + jumping some trails.
Yup..about 75 % in full plan then cancelled & restarting.
Thanks for the advice of no watch , rest & new routes. I'll be back in a week or so and run by feel with no plan for a while + jumping some trails.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 5:38 pm to Rsande63
When I finished the 20 week plan for Sugarland it was like a weight had been lifted off my shoulders. The race was the easy part, having to do something “plan wise” every damn day was mentally exhausting. Take a pause and relax dude, gotta keep the head right!
Posted on 1/30/21 at 6:17 am to TigeRoots
Same here Rick. Also having a tougher time getting motivated with all the races I'd plan for getting canceled. Two of mine canceled in one month. I'll keep the watch on (mainly for the music) but im just getting out there and getting some miles in. Not overly concerned with pace, hr, etc at the moment.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 8:39 am to Rsande63
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Yup..about 75 % in full plan then cancelled & restarting.
Surely he recalibrated the plan for your new fitness level, right? If not, that’s mistake 1. Mistake 2 is that he had you in heart rate training in the summer which means you were running too slow during your base. Mistake 3 is that he didn’t sit you out a week before restarting your plan. Mistake 4 which is the most unforgivable IMO, is that he didn’t have you do any tempo work for White River. That’s a big contributor to you blowing up way early.
I’ve said it before. Coaching is a huge benefit if you can afford it but finding a good coach is extremely difficult because anyone can call themselves a coach. This USATF cert 1 one that everyone has and includes on their coaching profile is a three day online course that only has 1 hour dedicated to endurance. And half of the hour is focused on speedwalking, lol. For about 250, you too can get this certificate. Nonsense.
We talked already, RS. I think you’re already reinvigorated to start anew. Please though, take the week completely off. Take care, bud.
Edit: added a but
This post was edited on 1/30/21 at 11:09 am
Posted on 1/30/21 at 1:16 pm to BurtReynoldsMustache
100% agree BRM and like I said off-line, I appreciate the candor.
I actually learned what does & does not work for me. I ran my first full + set a half PR after missing 3.5 months with my foot. Not a wasted year, just need a rest & redirect.
I was always worried about physically breaking but never prepared for the mental. I can actually run harder & faster than I thought and his plan pushed me out of my comfort zone.
Bigger picture, this is the point of this thread. We can be open & honest and get feedback and improve.
I actually learned what does & does not work for me. I ran my first full + set a half PR after missing 3.5 months with my foot. Not a wasted year, just need a rest & redirect.
I was always worried about physically breaking but never prepared for the mental. I can actually run harder & faster than I thought and his plan pushed me out of my comfort zone.
Bigger picture, this is the point of this thread. We can be open & honest and get feedback and improve.
Posted on 1/31/21 at 7:58 am to Rsande63
I'm struggling to find the motivation to run today. I'm under 8 miles from 100 for the month, but the current temperature is 8 degrees above without the windchill. The sun is out, but it's going to be brutal being outside for that long. I'm hoping it warms up this afternoon to maybe be high teens or low 20s.
Posted on 1/31/21 at 8:08 am to McVick
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I'm struggling to find the motivation to run today. I'm under 8 miles from 100 for the month
Think about how good you will feel when it’s done.
Posted on 1/31/21 at 8:10 am to OysterPoBoy
Does anyone else have issues with hot spots when you buy new shoes? Every time I get a new pair after running a couple of miles the balls of my feet start burning. I guess it’s the way my foot lands causing rubbing. I’ve been taking an old pair of insoles and putting them in the new shoes but those are almost demolished now.
Do I just put enough miles on the new ones until it stops or is there some secret?
Do I just put enough miles on the new ones until it stops or is there some secret?
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