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re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread

Posted on 2/7/19 at 8:37 am to
Posted by vistajay
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 8:37 am to
Finally a decent run this morning: 5 at 8:41 pace per Strava. Recording the run on Strava directly from the app on my watch seemed to work (once I figured out how to stop it), and my missing run from a couple days ago also finally appeared on Strava.

Just before the last mile of the run a late-30s woman zoomed past me, giving me about 10 feet of clearance either because of my intimidating gait or because I was spraying sweat that far across the roadway. As she passed, ponytail bouncing, she glanced over at me and wait...was that a sneer?! Game on! I kept up with her for a few blocks but thankfully she went straight when I had to turn and I was able to slow down. But I guess I have her to thank for the 8:00 final mile.
Posted by TigeRoots
Member since Oct 2008
8505 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 8:40 am to
Awesome! I ain’t judging!

Decent scenery yesterday in Audubon Park.
This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 8:41 am
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
59440 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 8:56 am to
I really need to get on the strava but I need a watch for it. I've looked at the Suunto before but it was their top of the line and bulky. What's a simple garmin for me to check out? Forerunner 235?


Tues - 2x5k 7:30 pace 3 minute rest
Wed - 1.5 hours of legwork. 600 air squats, 250 step-ups, 50 squat jumps.
Thurs - 2x5k 7:30 pace 3 minute rest
This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 9:00 am
Posted by TigeRoots
Member since Oct 2008
8505 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:17 am to
Hell yeah you do! I use a Polar watch (M430), but wouldn’t recommend it for a number of reasons. I think most of the guys here use Garmin, so they should be able to steer you in the right direction.
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
15407 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:22 am to
A cheaper alternative would be to buy something to hold your phone such as a flipbelt. Then you can just run the app while you run. Obvious downside is that you can not monitor your pace while you run. Upside is you will save a couple hundred dollars.


I'm frugal as frick, so my mind instantly goes to the cheapest route.
Posted by GeauxPack81
Member since Dec 2009
10479 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:38 am to
quote:

What's a simple garmin for me to check out? Forerunner 235?


Depends if you want a HR monitor on the watch. I have the 230, which was like $100 cheaper IIRC. It is the same watch but without the HR monitor... I didn't really care to get that function in my watch. If down the line I do want to monitor my HR for runs, I can always connect my 230 to a band around my chest.

The Garmin 230 is one of the best purchases I have ever made. Worth every penny if you like to track your runs.... The Garmin app blows though, so I just sync everything to Strava.
Posted by BurtReynoldsMustache
Member since Sep 2010
4837 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:41 am to
Go with a used 220 or 230 with a heart strap. The wrist monitoring is usually off +- 10 percent on the newer wrist watch heart monitors so why pay for something that doesn’t work.

ETA: GP81 nailed it. Upvote.
This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 9:42 am
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
15407 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:50 am to
I started using a chest strap again a couple weeks back. Been meaning to connect it to another device for a run or two and see what the difference is between the chest reading and wrist reading. I have a feeling the difference in winter can be quite a bit being that there is less blood flow to the extremities.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28807 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 12:47 pm to
Ditto. I’m always looking at new shoes, running hats, gels, socks whatever.

But I never think about replacing my garmin 230.
Posted by hogbody
Fayetteville
Member since Oct 2008
4919 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 12:49 pm to
My 645M is the tits
Posted by BurtReynoldsMustache
Member since Sep 2010
4837 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 1:03 pm to
Negative 3 windchill in my hood. Today’s run is going to be brisk.
Posted by PeepleHeppinBidness
Manchester United Fan
Member since Oct 2013
3553 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

The wrist monitoring is usually off +- 10 percent on the newer wrist watch heart monitors so why pay for something that doesn’t work.


I have a 235, but I also use it with a HR strap. I found the wrist-based monitor to be too unreliable if you're looking for consistently accurate readings. Most days just off about that 10%. Other days just off the rails and totally unreliable.
Posted by TigeRoots
Member since Oct 2008
8505 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 1:15 pm to
quote:

Negative 3 windchill in my hood. Today’s run is going to be brisk


Hot as fugg for the mid day 800’s I just hit. 85 feels like. Windy af, though thankful for it at times.
This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 1:16 pm
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28807 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 2:28 pm to
My last 2 runs down on the river walk have been 70 degrees with 100% humidity and no wind. I’ll take 0 degrees.
This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 2:29 pm
Posted by Hullabaloo
LA
Member since Sep 2009
15296 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 4:19 pm to
Week 6 Day 3 complete

Just a straight 22 min jog

Mile 1 10:07
Mile 2 9:35
Posted by GeauxPack81
Member since Dec 2009
10479 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 9:27 am to
I have a question for some of the faster or more experienced guys in here... Right now my main goals are getting faster 5k and 10k times. I see alot of people say that the majority of your runs should be at an easy pace, seemingly at least 1:00 min/mile slower than I can run. I just don't get how that makes me faster. If I want to drop 30 seconds off my 10k pace in 2 months, I just find it hard to believe that I am better off running at a leisurely pace during my training.
Posted by hogbody
Fayetteville
Member since Oct 2008
4919 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 11:04 am to
Hey GP. I don’t know that I’m the best to explain it but I can try a little.

I view my running as having 3 types of runs:
1. Workouts (higher intensity designed to stress the body so it can improve)
2. Easy runs (for recovery and for building aerobic base)
3. Long runs (can vary in intensity, but allows your body to adapt to long periods of aerobic exercise)

No matter what distance you are training for, you need to have a degree or each. Your event will dictate to a degree how long you need to go on your long run and what types or distances you should have in your workouts. No matter the event, you shouldn’t just have a workout every run or your body won’t recover properly and injury is more likely to occur.

Posted by thibtigerfan
Thibodaux
Member since Aug 2006
2460 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

I don’t know that I’m the best to explain it but I can try a little. I view my running as having 3 types of runs: 1. Workouts (higher intensity designed to stress the body so it can improve) 2. Easy runs (for recovery and for building aerobic base) 3. Long runs (can vary in intensity, but allows your body to adapt to long periods of aerobic exercise)


I am probably not the best either but I am similar

1. Easy Runs- Use as recovery and keeping my mileage up

2. Long runs- :30-1 min slower than my intended race pace for a Half or Full Marathon

3. Speed work- I will either do bridge runs, 400s, 800s, 1200s,1600s or some form of later of those. Sometimes even just a general progression run to get myself to below race pace and hold it for a mile or so. There are many different speed workouts that can be done
Posted by GeauxPack81
Member since Dec 2009
10479 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 2:11 pm to
Hog, weren't you in our NCAA dyansty back in the day? Or am I getting you mixed up with someone else?

I probably need to start running further and at a slower pace to build a better aerobic base. But if I am just running like 2 or 3 miles, I feel like going slower wouldn't help much. Just miles for the sake of miles. I am struggling with science telling me thats wrong
This post was edited on 2/8/19 at 2:16 pm
Posted by hogbody
Fayetteville
Member since Oct 2008
4919 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 2:17 pm to
Yep that’s me, miss that game!

And they are miles for the sake of miles, but those easy miles do have benefits. Your body gets more efficient at running, you develop better blood flow to your muscles and tissues. There’s still adaptations occurring.
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