re: Keto Is Stupid: Here's Why You Should Shut The frick Up And Just Eat Healthy

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meaningless turn of phrase. okay, i'm out; this thread is dumb.

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Translarion: anything I disagree with is dumb.

I’m sure anyone can thrive on a vegan diet. I know multiple people who do it. From crossfitters to sub 24 hr 100 mile races.

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you are like a broken record dude

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McLemore

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Do you ever say anything of substance, or just troll people on here?

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well, you sound kind of absurd in the process. Do you have figures that show that "falling off the [keto] wagon" is a) any more likely than on another diet, or b) people who do "fall off the [keto] wagon, or any more likely to gain weight and/or more weight than people who fall of any other dietary wagon? 

and your statement -- which i assume is just puerile smugness -- that you " do what's healthy and sustainable personally" begs the question we're discussing. You are just making a conclusory statement based on an appeal to the authority of your own dietary habits. How does that move the conversation forward? 

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It helps if you follow my words instead of constructing a strawman. I did not say keto dieters are more likely to fall off the wagon. I said people who follow keto to be trendy are more likely to fall off the wagon.

The statement is about people who have bought into keto because it is the trend. Trend followers are absolutely more likely to abandon a trend.

On the second point, the heathiest diet is one with smart choices that A PERSON WILL STICK TO. Some keto believers on here miss this point. Some people are not going to commit to keto forever. The best diet is a lifestyle, not a diet.

Beyond that, every diet comes with pros and cons. There are a variety of more and less healthy decisions people can make.

I didn't think this was a conversation to move forwards. It seems like team keto vs team anti-keto fighting and I doubt the conversation will ever move towards convincing anyone.

You don’t need to cut carbs out completely to lose weight. You just need to reduce calories to the point that you start burning fat. I started Avatar Nutrition just tracking macros and following what it precribed. Lost 10 lbs in about 5 weeks to get to my goal weight. Still was eating plenty of carbs.

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was i to assume from that that you believe there is a non-stupid keto.

gtfo with this sophistry.

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His post was pretty clear saying keto is fine, but finding something that you can stick with and make a lifestyle is better than any particular diet. You, however, didn't see KETO IS THE BEST AND ONLY WAY OR YOUR A MORON so you put your blinders on and went attack mode. Then when you got proved wrong and called out you got defensive like a whiny little bitch.

This is not meant for one specifically, just stating a few things

1) 95-97% of body comp is controlled by first by calories to determine fat loss and second protien to determine muscle loss rest and third by b the type of exercise done (the whole use it or lose it)

2) although most new studies show that a sheet that reduced inflammation, reduce triglycerides, resting blood sugar and stress on the body is healthiest (balanced keto and fasting), most people(90% or so) are going to receive the most health benefits from losing everything excess body fat, no matter the diet used to achieve.

This is why most arguing done in this board it's kind of stupid. Many people are not going to give up carbs long term, they might cut back or give them up on the short term but not for good.

So how can we help them lose excess body fat and change their health? This is what we should be trying to achieve when giving advice. Not everything is "do it the perfect way it don't do it at all".

Keto isn't for everyone, counting calories and macros isn't for everyone.

Even lifting isn't for everyone, hell some people like too run long distance even though science says it turns you more feminine every Mike you run(I kid, I kid).

In the end there is no one size fits all. There are just good, best and optimal ways of doing things. Something that is a huge first step for someone, might be pointless for somebody with more experience.


And diet doesn't have to mean anything specific, in fact it just means "ones pattern of eating"

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There's no reasoning with that retard so you might as well not even try. He's the Westboro Baptist Church of posters.

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Most of your posting is great, but on this board you always result to name-calling. It isn't a good look for you.