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re: Keto Is Stupid: Here's Why You Should Shut The frick Up And Just Eat Healthy
Posted on 9/14/18 at 6:05 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Posted on 9/14/18 at 6:05 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Meat only and yourr an insufferable douchebag. We know you repeat yourself over and over
he says without a trace of irony.
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Posted on 9/14/18 at 6:08 pm to McLemore
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McLemore
You're insufferable too. This board was very constructive and interesting until you two dick heads showed up
Posted on 9/14/18 at 6:14 pm to Big Scrub TX
Your first link (Austin Flint) goes to the Onion.
There's plenty of historical evidence of heart disease, going back to Egyptian times. Shifting population demographics absolutely change the rate of heart disease.
LINK /
"These statistics reflect an important feature of CHD: the incidence of the disease increases strikingly with age. Longer life means more time for arterial plaques to develop and cause problems. The risk of an 85-year-old man having a heart attack is 25 times that of a 45-year-old."
Since McLemore is dropping big words here, your argument for dietary causation is a post hoc ergo propter hoc argument and little more.
There's plenty of historical evidence of heart disease, going back to Egyptian times. Shifting population demographics absolutely change the rate of heart disease.
LINK /
"These statistics reflect an important feature of CHD: the incidence of the disease increases strikingly with age. Longer life means more time for arterial plaques to develop and cause problems. The risk of an 85-year-old man having a heart attack is 25 times that of a 45-year-old."
Since McLemore is dropping big words here, your argument for dietary causation is a post hoc ergo propter hoc argument and little more.
Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:22 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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You're insufferable too. This board was very constructive and interesting until you two dick heads showed up
I'll wear this as a badge of honor coming from the resident half-wit troll. Thank you very little.
eta a small note: i was one of the first posters on this board and have been on TD since you were sucking on your dad's tit.
This post was edited on 9/14/18 at 10:25 pm
Posted on 9/15/18 at 12:18 am to McLemore
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: i was one of the first posters on this board
When did you join the scientology movement of health and fitness and feel the need to repeat yourself ad nauseum?
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since you were sucking on your dad's tit.
This doesn't even make any sense.
Posted on 9/15/18 at 8:18 am to Mingo Was His NameO
I wish you would actually contribute to the conversation instead of ragging on posters and calling them names.
Posted on 9/15/18 at 10:38 am to Junky
This whole thread is a major trainwreck 
Posted on 9/15/18 at 2:03 pm to Hulkklogan
Healthy reminder that here, in 2018 we are still learning new metabolism facts about YEAST, a single celled organism.
LINK
We are nowhere near 100% understanding of all the possible human metabolic pathways, any possible variances between populations, etc...
We have biochemists working the issue from the molecular level up, and medical researches working the issues from the human impact (diagnosis) level backward. Maybe some time in the distant future they'll meet in the middle. Distant future, because you can't do petri dish studies on masses of humans for long term effects of X, humans will always have their own free will.
Now, back to our regularly scheduled argument!
(FWIW I follow low carb non-keto as a diabetic treatment, weight management has been phenomenal as a result).
LINK
We are nowhere near 100% understanding of all the possible human metabolic pathways, any possible variances between populations, etc...
We have biochemists working the issue from the molecular level up, and medical researches working the issues from the human impact (diagnosis) level backward. Maybe some time in the distant future they'll meet in the middle. Distant future, because you can't do petri dish studies on masses of humans for long term effects of X, humans will always have their own free will.
Now, back to our regularly scheduled argument!
(FWIW I follow low carb non-keto as a diabetic treatment, weight management has been phenomenal as a result).
Posted on 9/16/18 at 9:55 am to BRIllini07
This bhb-NLRP3 pathway is pretty cool, and the coauthor's name alone is worth the price of admission admission.
LINK
LINK
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Vishwa Deep Dixit
Additional article information
Abstract
Ketone bodies , ß-hydroxybutyrate (BHB) and acetoacetate support mammalian survival during states of energy deficit by serving as alternative source of ATP1. BHB levels are elevated during starvation, high-intensity exercise or by the low carbohydrate ketogenic diet....
We report that BHB, but neither acetoacetate nor structurally-related short chain fatty acids, butyrate and acetate, suppresses activation of the NLRP3 inflammasome in response to several structurally unrelated NLRP3 activators, without impacting NLRC4, AIM2 or non-canonical caspase-11 inflammasome activation.
This post was edited on 9/16/18 at 9:57 am
Posted on 9/16/18 at 10:23 am to McLemore
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Vishwa Deep Dixit
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:Posted on 9/17/18 at 11:40 am to Rep520
quote:This is clearly true of cancer also. However, I am claiming that a 50 year old in 1850 was at strikingly lower risk of CVD than a 50 year old today.
"These statistics reflect an important feature of CHD: the incidence of the disease increases strikingly with age. Longer life means more time for arterial plaques to develop and cause problems. The risk of an 85-year-old man having a heart attack is 25 times that of a 45-year-old."
And the argument for diabetes seems quite clear. Prior to the exponential ramp up in sugar consumption, the condition barely existed.
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