I would like to discuss red meat (spin off)

I eat red meat pretty much daily. Bison and beef are heavily ingrained in my diet. I also eat a lot of chicken. I would like to eat more seafood, but it doesn’t reheat well.

As for the long term effects of eating red meat, we eat meat. We have always eaten meat. Why is it so bad for you? Maybe we should look into what the cattle are fed. Ultimately, we eat what they eat. I buy grassfed as much as I can.

The people who get heart disease, is it only because they eat red meat? Do they exercise regularly? Are they overweight? It’s hard for me to believe that red meat in and of itself is carcinogenic.

In pretty sure it’s been proven that dietary cholesterol doesn’t affect blood cholesterol.

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I would like to eat more seafood, but it doesn’t reheat well.

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This is a great point.

I often try to incorporate seafood into my diet but when i shop for it i usually get enough to eat just for one meal, salmon filet once a week etc..

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Key is quality.

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This. I don’t even eat meat but the key is quality. Free range, grass fed if possible.

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Do you guys think too much red meat is bad for you?

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Quite the opposite. I'm fairly tired of the subject as I constantly have to bring up what the numbers in the studies actually mean. What the value of their numbers mean, the blatant disregard of those numbers in context, the crazy time involved in FFQ's, or - sometimes, not even accounting for confounding variables.

Some physicians are for red meat, and would like to see patients eat it 2-3 times a day.

Now, do I care what other do? Not really anymore. Trying to use the govt to remove my food source? I have a huge fricking problem with.

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Do you guys think too much red meat is bad for you?

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Not only isn't it bad for you, I list it as the #1 health food that I eat. I have steak 4-6 times per week. Not only is it absurdly delicious, but it is also very filling. If I eat a big steak with some broccoli for dinner, I don't even think about food until the next day.

What's really frustrating is that they've stopped using beef tallow to cook things in. I went to a restaurant recently where the fries, veggies and even desserts were cooked in tallow. fricking great.

I think it's good to opt for grass fed, high quality beef. But I think that effect pales in comparison to eating some shitty carb. IOW, "bad" meat is better for you than "good" carbs.

I switched from grilling my steaks to doing everything in the oven and cast iron. However, I'm probably going to get one of those infrared steak grills that get 1000 degrees plus. The good steak houses cook quickly at extremely high heat - it essentially explodes the internal fat immediately (to delicious effect!)

You should branch out to some other cuts away from filet. And also, learn how to make yourself a good brisket.

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And also, learn how to make yourself a good brisket.

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Get you a prime brisket, trim some fat, put in a crock pot on low for 24 hours. Strain and refrigerate...excellent tallow!

I eat red meat probably 4-5 days per week.

I don't think red meat in and of itself is carcinogenic. It does seem like a diet high in red meat and low on fiber can slightly increase risk of colorectal cancer, but if it does it's a very small amount that's offset by eating vegetables.

As for health, yes quality matters since real grassfed ground beef has a better ratio of PUFAs. Otherwise grassfed and grainfed aren't wildly different. In terms of health.

However, I caution against swinging the pendulum too far and calling it a health food or 'superfood'. As with anything just be smart and moderate use. Mix it up.

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In pretty sure it’s been proven that dietary cholesterol doesn’t affect blood cholesterol.

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Fat (and carb) intake certainly does.