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re: deadlifts: is the reward worth the risk
Posted on 7/14/19 at 8:41 pm to The Funnie Five
Posted on 7/14/19 at 8:41 pm to The Funnie Five
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Almost everyone I see deadlifting at the gym has shite form. Rounded back and all of that.
once you get in the high weight like 405+
rounding the back some what happens to everyone
some people naturally round their back more than others, it doesn't mean they are going to hurt themselves
its usually taller or lanky people deadlifting bc get down that low is not natural for the pull
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Posted on 7/14/19 at 9:16 pm to L1C4
I just fail to see how an exercise designed to strengthen your posterior chain is bad for your back, but I am no expert so idk
Posted on 7/14/19 at 9:18 pm to StraightCashHomey21
I think for a lot of people bro deadlifting doesn't have to get that high to have benefits for overall fitness. I think 1.5x body weight on big lifts and 1x on bench with some good accessories and that's solid for a lot of people.
People get scared watching a 4 plate deadlift because that's not really what they need to meet their goals. Everyone should squat and deadlift. But not everyone needs to be a powerlifter. You agree?
People get scared watching a 4 plate deadlift because that's not really what they need to meet their goals. Everyone should squat and deadlift. But not everyone needs to be a powerlifter. You agree?
Posted on 7/15/19 at 9:02 am to L1C4
Not if you dont go too heavy.
1 rep maxes don't build muscle, only ego.
1 rep maxes don't build muscle, only ego.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 9:13 am to bayou85
Posted on 7/15/19 at 9:38 am to L1C4
Hell no. The if you have good form thing is the problem. So easy to screw this up and many claim to have good form, and just don't.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 9:49 am to L1C4
I like to keep my deadlifts to one set of 5-10 reps depending on the weight. I'm not a fan of high volume deads.
Most of the time I lift sub max on deads, like 85% of 1RM or less. I say most of the time, but sometimes I do cheese it up, kiss the guns and pull for 1RM just to impress the dumbbell rack bros and cardio bunnies.
Other than those two rules, yes deadlifts are awesome and worth any slight risk associated with them.
Most of the time I lift sub max on deads, like 85% of 1RM or less. I say most of the time, but sometimes I do cheese it up, kiss the guns and pull for 1RM just to impress the dumbbell rack bros and cardio bunnies.
Other than those two rules, yes deadlifts are awesome and worth any slight risk associated with them.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 2:15 pm to L1C4
I'm someone who lifts heavy for an everyday man, but nowhere near serious lifting/powerlifter heavy. I'm also someone (tall, kinda lanky) who has to seriously focus on keeping my form.
That said, from personal experience, friends, and especially my experience as a former athlete, deadlift injuries really aren't as common a gym injury as we make it sounds. I've seen way more injuries from compound olympic lifts and especially bodybuilding-style iso exercises.
That said, from personal experience, friends, and especially my experience as a former athlete, deadlift injuries really aren't as common a gym injury as we make it sounds. I've seen way more injuries from compound olympic lifts and especially bodybuilding-style iso exercises.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 8:23 pm to StraightCashHomey21
I started taking deadlifts seriously when I dropped the bro split and picked a good LP. I never do singles but my heavy working sets are 3 reps.
I’m just starting to hit PRs and I love it. Is my form always 100%? No, but I never feel like I can’t control the weight. I feel like you have sacrifice some form to lift heavy no matter the lift.
I’m just starting to hit PRs and I love it. Is my form always 100%? No, but I never feel like I can’t control the weight. I feel like you have sacrifice some form to lift heavy no matter the lift.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 8:29 pm to Bonkers119
Wearing a belt helps. It gives you a small room for error. Also, when you get to heavy weight (I mean heavy) rounding isn’t necessarily a bad thing. As long as your lats are engaged, you are bracing like you’re trying to make your eyes pop out of your head, you have good hip hinge and your lower back is properly engaged, you can get away with rounding. The problem is when people cat-back 225.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 8:41 pm to DeafJam73
Yeah I only wear a belt on my working sets, never warm ups. I’m 6 ft with a pretty lanky upper body, so sometimes keeping my form perfect is tough but I always try to reset if a rep felt off. Did 335 tonight and hit all my reps, so I’m pretty happy lol. That’s heavy for me.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 8:52 pm to DeafJam73
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Also, when you get to heavy weight (I mean heavy) rounding isn’t necessarily a bad thing.
The issue is less rounding (extreme examples aside) and more about spinal flexion under load. Unless it's lumbar rounding.
People who have a slight upper back round but maintain position under load are generally fine. It's when the load pulls your back into changing a position. That change of spinal position under load is when things start snapping.
Posted on 7/15/19 at 8:57 pm to DeafJam73
if you learn how to brace your core properly you don't need a belt unless you are hitting #s 600+
This post was edited on 7/15/19 at 9:31 pm
Posted on 7/16/19 at 8:03 pm to L1C4
This kind of attitude is what prevents you from reaching your goals
Posted on 7/16/19 at 8:05 pm to StraightCashHomey21
I vehemently disagree with this statement. You’re telling me it wouldn’t be wise to wear a belt while repping 405 10 times? That’s absurd. Even at 315, form does start to slip if you’re tired or if you have an off day and aren’t feeling it. Why risk injury?
Posted on 7/16/19 at 8:15 pm to Proximo
Belts don't really do that much except help cue your bracing. Studies have found that people typically brace better with a belt but the belt itself does little to protect your back.
So, yes. Brace properly and you really don't need a belt unless they help you brace better.
So, yes. Brace properly and you really don't need a belt unless they help you brace better.
This post was edited on 7/16/19 at 8:18 pm
Posted on 7/16/19 at 8:29 pm to Proximo
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I vehemently disagree with this statement. You’re telling me it wouldn’t be wise to wear a belt while repping 405 10 times? That’s absurd. Even at 315, form does start to slip if you’re tired or if you have an off day and aren’t feeling it. Why risk injury?
get better core strength and learn how to breath properly
i have not worn a belt since 2013
and i pull 4 plates with ease
pulling 405x10 is not something any normal person would do compared to maybe 405x5
people end up using a belt as a crutch
I literally had a random dude come up to me when i was stationed in Germany and took 10 mins of his time to teach me how to properly brace. I lowered the weight for about 2 weeks after than and never looked at a belt again. 6 years raw and no issues.
This post was edited on 7/16/19 at 8:31 pm
Posted on 7/17/19 at 8:40 am to StraightCashHomey21
Doing them in an EMOM today. Will be a low weight. My 2POOD belt will be on the entire time.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:21 am to AlxTgr
when im doing an EMOM with them on lower weight like 315 and below
im engaging my legs so much anyway
im not going to knock anyone for using a belt, but with proper bracing you wont need it
im engaging my legs so much anyway
im not going to knock anyone for using a belt, but with proper bracing you wont need it
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:34 am to StraightCashHomey21
quote:There's lots of things we don't need.
but with proper bracing you wont need it
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