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re: CrossFit athletes and doping
Posted on 8/7/17 at 9:05 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Posted on 8/7/17 at 9:05 pm to StraightCashHomey21
I'm not sure CF athletes make enough to get the good shite. When I think of doping I think of very large monetary transactions swapping hands. But maybe I'm off
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:52 pm to Lester Earl
Y'all are so naive. Yes cf test and undoubtedly 90% of the top competitors are doping. Sorry not possible to do three crazy hard workouts a day like Fronning and Frazier.
Tnation had a good series on this. I believe most are using hgh which I don't believe they test for. Most are using during trading to build strength then using things like epo and growth to help with recovery and endurance for competition.
Tnation had a good series on this. I believe most are using hgh which I don't believe they test for. Most are using during trading to build strength then using things like epo and growth to help with recovery and endurance for competition.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 8:14 am to rintintin
Just like every other sport, I'm sure some are. However, the training is what drives the results.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 8:29 am to lsu777
I'm not saying some do, but there is no money in CF and many of the competitors are in college or have been competing since college. Where are they getting the funds for the newest stuff to beat drug testing? From my understanding they use the same company the Olympic committee does. Not saying nothing gets past them but then again I think national programs have better access to the good stuff
Posted on 8/8/17 at 9:06 am to Lester Earl
Maybe crossfitters are turning to g4p...
This post was edited on 8/8/17 at 9:54 am
Posted on 8/8/17 at 2:43 pm to rintintin
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EXAMPLES OF BANNED SUBSTANCES IN EACH DRUG CLASS: • Stimulants: amphetamine (Adderall); cocaine; ephedrine; fen uramine (Fen); methamphetamine; methylphenidate (Ritalin); phen- termine (Phen); synephrine (bitter orange); methylhexaneamine; “bath salts” (mephedrone); etc. (Exceptions: phenylephrine and pseudoephedrine are not banned.) • Anabolic Agents (sometimes listed as a chemical formula, such as 3,6,17-androstenetrione): boldenone; clenbuterol; DHEA (7- Keto); nandrolone; stanozolol; testosterone; methasterone; androstenedione; norandrostenedione; methandienone; etiocholanolone; trenbolone; etc. • Beta Blockers (banned in competition only): acebutolol; atenolol; metoprolol; nadolol; pindolol; propranolol; timolol; etc. • Street Drugs: heroin; cocaine; cannabinoids and synthetic cannabinoids (in-competition–e.g., spice, K2, JWH-018, JWH-073); etc. • Diuretics and Other Masking Agents: bumetanide; chlorothiazide; furosemide; hydrochlorothiazide; probenecid; spironolactone (canrenone); triamterene; trichlormethiazide; etc. • Peptide Hormones and Analogues: growth hormone (hGH); human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG); erythropoietin (EPO); etc. • Anti-Estrogens: anastrozole; tamoxifen; formestane; 3,17-dioxo-etiochol-1,4,6-triene (ATD); etc. • Beta-2 Agonists: bambuterol; formoterol; salbutamol; salmeterol; etc. There is no complete list of banned drugs. New banned substance classes emerge constantly. In addition, any substance that is chemically related to the class of banned drugs is also banned. Athletes shall be held accountable for all drugs within the banned drug class, regardless of whether they have been speci cally identi ed as banned. For example, designer drugs chemically related to banned substances are banned even if a name has yet to be created for them.
Yes they test. If you compete in any Crossfit sanctioned event you have to give consent to be tested at any given time.
A regional competitor this year received a 3 year ban because he was taking a supplement to help get his wife pregnant and it was on the banned substance list.
This post was edited on 8/8/17 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 8/8/17 at 5:33 pm to rintintin
They all do. Every single one of them. Does that mean they dont sacrifice and dedicate their entire lives to making it there? Not at all. If drugs werent involved, the same exact athletes would be there. The playing field is absolutely level, just like mlb.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 6:46 pm to dnm3305
I feel like something has to be going on, just based on the recovery turnaround at the games. Seems like a scenario perfect EPO.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 6:51 pm to ZoneLiftGMC
I don't think the turnaround is that drastic. Yes for those that don't train this way, yes. Those guys and girls are beasts.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 8:43 pm to Rossberg02
The athletes are literally collapsing after many of the events. I'd say working out to the point of physical collapse three times a day, four days in a row qualifies as drastic.
Hell some of the workouts are so tough that the athletes can't even finish them.
Hell some of the workouts are so tough that the athletes can't even finish them.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 7:22 am to ZoneLiftGMC
True, but also many of the workouts are very short. The longest workout of the whole games this year took Toomey (the women's champ) 28 min. Most of the others were less than 10 min.
It's not crazy to think they can be ready to go again after a few hours of rest and professional recovery. That's basically how they train all year to be ready for it. I see normal Joe Crosffitters do 2 workouts a day to complete exhaustion regularly.
Now I'm not saying they aren't doping, I'm truly interested to know, but I don't think doing 3 workouts in a day is strong enough evidence.
It's not crazy to think they can be ready to go again after a few hours of rest and professional recovery. That's basically how they train all year to be ready for it. I see normal Joe Crosffitters do 2 workouts a day to complete exhaustion regularly.
Now I'm not saying they aren't doping, I'm truly interested to know, but I don't think doing 3 workouts in a day is strong enough evidence.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 7:27 am to rintintin
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but I don't think doing 3 workouts in a day is strong enough evidence.
4 days in row at that level though?
like others have said, it's why it's so prevalent in other sports like tennis and cycling, it's all about the recovery
Posted on 8/9/17 at 7:34 am to Lester Earl
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I'm not saying some do, but there is no money in CF and many of the competitors are in college or have been competing since college. Where are they getting the funds for the newest stuff to beat drug testing?
Permitted supplement sponsors?
ETA: Clothing sponsors?
This post was edited on 8/9/17 at 7:59 am
Posted on 8/9/17 at 8:16 am to Salmon
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4 days in row at that level though?
It's one wknd out of the year, with everything at stake. And all the competitors are experiencing that same level of fatigue.
Even they admit during the games how sore and destroyed their bodies are, but it's not like they can quit.
I doubt they're working that hard for every workout in training.
Again, I don't doubt some are doping to help with recovery, I just don't think looking at the games alone is concrete proof of it.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 9:04 am to rintintin
If they don't test, then they are using PEDs, period.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:31 am to DeltaDoc
They do test. That's been covered already a few post above already.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 8:56 pm to SabiDojo
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Permitted supplement sponsors?
ETA: Clothing sponsors?
They're already pretty set. I noticed nothing but reebok all weekend. And whatever recovery supplements they pushed a few times.
I also saw quite a few Garmin Forerunners, but they didn't sponser anything that I saw.
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