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Posted on 1/5/25 at 6:29 am to
Posted by johnny
Member since Sep 2003
243 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 6:29 am to
I've been eating strict carnivore (and no alcohol) for 8 months now.
IMO it is too easy. I'm single digit carbs every week.
It is important to figure out the protein/fat ratio for yourself, the carb manager app is what I used for that.
Posted by Don Quixote
Member since May 2023
4997 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 10:23 am to
I don't really understand how blood type is a factor, but I read



I'm type O+ and it was spot on that I should get as much protein as I can. Wife is type A and she responds well to a primarily vegetarian diet

I've been flirting with carnivore, keto, semi-Atkins, paleo for a few years since. That lead me to Atkins and then Keto but I never fully embraced either. Carnivore looks interesting because as my wife says about me I don't think it's a meal if there's no dead animal on the plate.

I don't need to lose any weight, wouldn't mind a little but don't need to. Don't have inflammatory or bowel issues. Lipid and other blood panels are all good.

One of the things that attracts me is a friend of mine who went full keto and later carnivore describes his energy level as not being fed by what he ate in the previous couple hours because he's converted to burning fat instead of carbs. So he has an elevated, flat energy profile rather than a bell curve that resulted in "bonking" when blood sugar tanked.

So my current state is I eat as much protein as I can and either limit my carbs or know I'll pay for it when i over do them. But I'm still interesting in going all in.

I travel a bit for work so that's going to be a problem, but I'll figure it out.
This post was edited on 1/5/25 at 12:07 pm
Posted by Chorizo chang
Statesboro
Member since Feb 2022
837 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 10:12 pm to
If you listen to Jordan Peterson, it’s a miracle diet that alleviates everything from arthritis, debilitating depression, lack of energy/drive, to curing whatever the frick weird disease his weird arse daughter had

I don’t listen to everything Peterson says but I have always really liked the guy. I know he’s fallen out of favor with alot of people over his political views recently, but he’s a good Christian man and has been treated disgustingly by Trudeau and the academic elites in Canada. Off topic, sorry

Anyway. He and Shawn Baker on Rogan have both inspired the hell outta me over the last year or so. Baker will have you running through a brick wall to go carnivore at some point
This post was edited on 1/5/25 at 10:14 pm
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37977 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 7:18 am to
quote:


If you listen to Jordan Peterson, it’s a miracle diet that alleviates everything from arthritis, debilitating depression, lack of energy/drive, to curing whatever the frick weird disease his weird arse daughter had

I don’t listen to everything Peterson says but I have always really liked the guy. I know he’s fallen out of favor with alot of people over his political views recently, but he’s a good Christian man and has been treated disgustingly by Trudeau and the academic elites in Canada. Off topic, sorry

Anyway. He and Shawn Baker on Rogan have both inspired the hell outta me over the last year or so. Baker will have you running through a brick wall to go carnivore at some poin


well this works because many people have lots of inflammation in their body from SAD. When you go on an extreme elimination diet like carnivore or whole 30, you tend to cut out all the crap that is causing the issue.

on top of that, most will be satiated and eat much less overall and much more protein upping the overall Thermic effect of their diet so suddenly they are eating a lot less when it doesnt involve shoving bags of chips down their throat

then the thermic effect lowers the overall calories left to burn

then people tend to fix their hormones when they stop eating 250g of processed bullshite daily....so they have more energy and tend to move more


overall this adds up to a lot of fat lost which again tends to cause people to have less inflamatiion.

it also tends to raise testosterone in males....which usually leads to other pathways of them exercising, many times following Shawns advice of lifitng.

baker is pretty fricking awesome and if people are having health issues, i do recommend going on an elimination diet like carnivore or whole 30 for 30-45 days and then slowly reintroducing carbs in the form of whole fruit and slowly progressing from there to see which foods you tolerate and which you dont. you would be surprised by how many people do not tolerate carbs except fruit, white rice and potatoes....I am one of them.

when i eat a SAD like i have last month...i notice big time how much imflamation i have.
Posted by theonlyiceman53
Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:59 pm to
I've been on it for a year with just steak, eggs, butter and lots of salt. My LDL is high, my HDL is increasing, and my triglycerides are dropping. I feel great and my arthritis is gone. My sugar numbers are dropping, and I look and feel younger. I just went to a new GP and he was interested after he did the normal speech of you are going to die if you don't toe the line with statins. I've had a double bypass, many stents that were happening about every three years. My cardiologist said it was my genetics. I'm a technician and I can't except that after doing all the healthy crap and taking all the pills, shots and magic potions. I was sick, fat and in pain. My blood pressure was running 200/100 with medication and low fat, low salt, high vegetables and fruit intake. Salt lowers your blood pressure. High LDL is fine, it's the condition of the particles that matters. Carbs and sugars damage the particle. Ask for an extend lipid panel that will report on condition. My new doctor who looks like Doogie Howser, ordered one without my suggestion as I forgot, He was cool once he realized I was serious and care about my own health. It is truly miraculous. I'm 71 and still on the road fixing machines because of carnivore as I was going to quit last year. I love my work, and it would be like killing a part of me if I quit doing it. Good luck. Vegetables and fruit are not good for you. We are made to be carnivore with stomach acid to digest about anything except vegetables. Do some research. Let's just say you will save a ton on TP. as your body used all of the meat.
Posted by b_w
Member since Dec 2016
311 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:51 am to
Newbie questions here for those that have done carnivore:

To start how much of meals is red meat vs. Chicken, fish or shrimp? Is it best to

Do y’all eat full fat Greek yogurt or best do avoid yogurt starting out? I like to mix whey into this to get protein goals met… what about milk? same for whey / protein goals
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10870 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:12 am to
quote:

To start how much of meals is red meat vs. Chicken, fish or shrimp? Is it best to

Do y’all eat full fat Greek yogurt or best do avoid yogurt starting out? I like to mix whey into this to get protein goals met… what about milk? same for whey / protein goals


There are no rules other than what your body tolerates and doesnt. Generally, the higher fat cuts you get, the better you are going to feel. I really dont think carnivore with lean meats would be enjoyable or sustainable.

If you are gonna go full carnivore, I really wouldnt worry about meeting protein goal. The milk and yogurt question is something you are gonna have to work out yourself.

There are two options to answer this for certain:
1) Go carnivore and dont cut out milk/yogurt. Once you are fully adapted(no longer getting runs, energy levels balanced), then cut out milk/yogurt for a week or two. If you feel better, consider cutting it. If not, then stick with it

2) The inverse of 1. Start full carnivore then once adapted ADD milk/yogurt for week or two. Note how you feel and adjust accordingly

This process can be done with any "can I eat this" food but its important that you establish a baseline of how you feel having eliminated everything but meat.
Posted by b_w
Member since Dec 2016
311 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 11:01 am to
Appreciate insight
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10870 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 1:21 pm to
Absolutely!
Posted by OldHickory
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2012
10817 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 5:21 am to
Carnivore is equally an elimination diet. Take it down to beef, water, and salt (lion diet) or beef, bacon, butter, and eggs. Do it for 30 days and see how you feel. Then start slowly adding things back in. I enjoy pork, but I can definitely tell it causes bloat and inflammation. Feel much better when I stick to mainly beef and ruminant animals.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
31600 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:01 pm to
quote:

However it might not be good for your cholesterol numbers.


Don't believe this. It's "bad' for the one cholesterol number...the one doctors can provide meds for.

This has been my hesitation. As a physician, it goes against everything we've been taught. I'm certainly open minded and advocate low carb, high protein diets, but haven't been able to make my self go full carnivore for more than a couple weeks here or there to drop pounds. I have a pt that has been doing it pretty strict for about 6 months and he's lost 30lbs while dropping his LDL by 63 pt and raising his HDL 5.
Posted by b_w
Member since Dec 2016
311 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:08 pm to
Day 1 of carnivore done.

Bacon, scrambled eggs, hard boiled eggs and steak.
Posted by SimonSlick
Member since Oct 2007
3887 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 10:11 pm to
I started Carnivore for 2025. I'm right at 2 weeks in and feel really good. I'm only down a few pounds, but I didn't really care to lose weight. I just wanted to get healthier. I plan to introduce fruits and occasionally white rice after this month.
Posted by OldHickory
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2012
10817 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 11:02 pm to
Awesome, man. Stick with it. Doesn’t feel like a sacrifice when you can eat that.
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
30509 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 5:58 am to
I've been on it for a few weeks now. Feel great. It's amazing that even after stuffing myself with steak I never feel horrible like I would if it was a carb loaded meal.

I think what is very eye opening is how ingrained it is for us to add carbs to everything.

Posted by lsugerberbaby
baton rouge
Member since Mar 2008
3067 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:53 am to
quote:

As a physician, it goes against everything we've been taught


Since you're a physician, honest question...how much were y'all taught about nutrition? Again, that's a truly honest question that I've always wondered about.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
31600 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:56 am to
Zero. Any knowledge I have was gained on my own. Refer to dietician was the answer for any questions. I've also studied and used natural treatments for more than 20 years, but very little info even in current times with our CME.

And most of what we were taught was incorrect. They've been pushing vegan, high carb, plant based shite for decades. Intuitively I knew I did better with higher protein and less carbs. That was 1996-2000. My best source of info was Men's Health before they went woke, then eventually body building/fitness chatrooms and message boards.

I always pushed the Mediterranean diet and a healthier Atkins for weight loss.
This post was edited on 1/14/25 at 9:18 am
Posted by lsugerberbaby
baton rouge
Member since Mar 2008
3067 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 9:33 am to
I don't want to pry too much...apologies if it's too much. Don't want to put you in a spot.

But do you feel like it should have been mandatory to know more about nutrition? Every doctor I listen to in podcasts talk about it being the root cause to so many diseases and issues. Would you agree with that?
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
31600 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 12:08 pm to
I agree, but the problem is getting the people that set the curriculum to follow the science, and truthfully, we don't have time to do dietary counseling. We're not paid for using our brain and prevention. We're paid for volume and procedures. I do give my patients websites, general advice and help them navigate the information they get.
Posted by PureBlood
The Motherland
Member since Oct 2021
5021 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 8:18 am to
quote:

I do a modified carnivore diet called animal based. It is amazing. You gain muscle and lose fat at the same time. I'm not quitting. It's basically no processed food in my diet unless I have a cheat meal or cheat snack.



I've done Keto, Carnivore (short stint) and Animal Based. My favorite is animal based. Less gut side effects and easier to stick with. Not trying to win any body building contests and helps me eat clean.
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