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What do yall think about amateurs not being able to accept winnings at a PGA event?
Posted on 2/22/21 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 2/22/21 at 3:31 pm
I feel like its complete bullshite. If an amateur goes out and wins a tournament against the best players in the world they should be able to win the $1mil+. I always just assumed if I somehow made it to the US Open and won that retarded rule wouldnt come into play. Imagine winning one of those and all the guys you just beat taking home hundreds of thousands and you get nothing but a fricking trophy. Thinking about this is pissing me off way more than it should.
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 3:37 pm to pigskinGod
It's complete bullshite. Why not just put the winnings in a trust or something and they can have it when they no longer have amateur status?
Posted on 2/22/21 at 3:40 pm to pigskinGod
If you won the US Open, could you revoke your amateur status and accept the winnings? If so, that seems like the path most would take. If not, then, yeah, it sucks.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 4:21 pm to pigskinGod
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I feel like its complete bullshite.
Why? They don't have PGA tour cards, so they wouldn't be able to compete in the event if they didn't let them in. The alternative is that they don't get to compete at all.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 4:25 pm to pigskinGod
If they were able to accept the winnings, they wouldn’t be amateurs.
You want the winnings, qualify the same way the pros do.
You want the winnings, qualify the same way the pros do.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 4:38 pm to DestrehanTiger
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If you won the US Open, could you revoke your amateur status and accept the winnings?
I don't think so. I think you have to declare your status prior to the event. There have been several instances of someone finishing as low amateur in a major and then turning pro the very next day. If they could accept prize money by revoking status the day prior, they'd do that.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 4:55 pm to medtiger
I think you can now accept sponsorship dollars and make money off your name, likeness, etc. and still keep your am status for USGA purposes.
I don't know how that jives with NCAA restrictions. I guess until the NCAA finalizes how they want to handle it, this just means Stewart Hagestad can get paid to play Titleist clubs/ball and still play in the mid am.
Only way to break am status now is to win more than $750, accept money for lessons or work as a club pro.
I don't know how that jives with NCAA restrictions. I guess until the NCAA finalizes how they want to handle it, this just means Stewart Hagestad can get paid to play Titleist clubs/ball and still play in the mid am.
Only way to break am status now is to win more than $750, accept money for lessons or work as a club pro.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 4:57 pm to barry
To be fair, people compete in the US Open and general tour events without a PGA Tour card and are eligible to win money.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 6:11 pm to The Johnny Lawrence
If the NCAA doesn’t adapt you may well see college golf go by the wayside. Better players might take sponsorships and play the am circuit.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 6:24 pm to Zanzibaw
This may apply to college basketball but def not college golf. Most of these amateur kids need the experience snd competition of college golf. Very few players come out of high school ready to play on tour. There may or been a handful of kids that could. College golf doesn’t even make the university money. Football pays for most of it. They have no leverage and guys that try and skip college to play on mini tours wil quickly regret it. Most would get chewed up and spit out
This post was edited on 2/22/21 at 7:25 pm
Posted on 2/22/21 at 7:36 pm to pigskinGod
If you won The US Open as an amateur the winnings would pale in comparison to future endorsement and fame.
Numerous commentators:
“The last amateur to win The US Open, blah, blah”
Endorsements
Media opportunities.
Bobby Jones made a Ton of money off “amateur” status.
You can too!
I’ll pull for you.
ETA: I made it through my open heart surgery, came home yesterday. Will start putting next week I think. Enjoy the banter on here. My legs and chest will not be included in any linked videos.
Numerous commentators:
“The last amateur to win The US Open, blah, blah”
Endorsements
Media opportunities.
Bobby Jones made a Ton of money off “amateur” status.
You can too!
I’ll pull for you.
ETA: I made it through my open heart surgery, came home yesterday. Will start putting next week I think. Enjoy the banter on here. My legs and chest will not be included in any linked videos.
This post was edited on 2/23/21 at 5:31 am
Posted on 2/23/21 at 6:46 am to makersmark1
I’m sorry I misspelled some words.
Recovering.
Good time for me to look at this board and get some ideas.
Recovering.
Good time for me to look at this board and get some ideas.
Posted on 2/23/21 at 7:16 am to pigskinGod
Nope, keeping your AM status is a choice you make before a tournament starts not the result of the system trying to screw you. If you want to make the money take the chance and declare your PRO status.
Posted on 2/23/21 at 9:24 am to BeaverPRO
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Nope, keeping your AM status is a choice you make before a tournament starts not the result of the system trying to screw you. If you want to make the money take the chance and declare your PRO status.
My only question to that is...
Don't some amateur's earn the invite to some of the majors due to their winning large amateur events? For example, the US Amateur champ will win an invite into the Masters. Does that player have to keep his amateur status to keep the invite? If he turns pro would they then say he has to qualify as a professional?
Posted on 2/23/21 at 9:27 am to Choupique19
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the US Amateur champ will win an invite into the Masters. Does that player have to keep his amateur status to keep the invite?
Masters, yes. US Open, not any more as of this year I think. Called the Victor Hovland rule.
Posted on 2/23/21 at 9:52 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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Masters, yes. US Open, not any more as of this year I think. Called the Victor Hovland rule.
I don't believe the Masters allows you to compete as a pro if you qualified as an Amateur. Not at least according to this article.
Waiting to turn pro until after Masters
This from the USGA website
quote:
WINNERS OF 2019 U.S. JUNIOR AMATEUR AND U.S. MID-AMATEUR CHAMPIONSHIPS, AND THE 2019 U.S. AMATEUR RUNNER-UP (MUST BE AN AMATEUR)
Winners of 2019 U.S. Junior Amateur and U.S. Mid-Amateur, and the 2019 U.S. Amateur Runner-Up (Must be an amateur)
Posted on 2/24/21 at 1:59 pm to barry
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Why? They don't have PGA tour cards, so they wouldn't be able to compete in the event if they didn't let them in. The alternative is that they don't get to compete at all.
That’s not true for the US Open.
Posted on 2/24/21 at 2:29 pm to barry
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Why? They don't have PGA tour cards, so they wouldn't be able to compete in the event if they didn't let them in. The alternative is that they don't get to compete at all.
You don't need a card. Each week you have Monday Q, sponsor exemptions, and a local PGA Section winner.
Posted on 2/24/21 at 3:19 pm to BeaverPRO
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I don't believe the Masters allows you to compete as a pro if you qualified as an Amateur.
This would be a reason as well.
Can you imagine JN leading the broadcast:
“Hello friends. Welcome to the 2032 Masters. We have a historically leader. Preston Jones, the first US Open champion to win as an amateur since 1930, has made the cut and is just 4 behind the lead of John Daly’s son who shot 63 yesterday after an opening 76. Enjoy the broadcast.”
Posted on 2/24/21 at 5:47 pm to pigskinGod
It's definitely dumb and probably an outdated rule. The reasoning is that amateurs qualify for tournaments differently and technically have an easier path to playing some of these tournaments (if you are a really great amateur) and thus should be treated differently. If you want to get paid, announce you are going pro and qualify like everyone else.
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