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re: Adidas drops DJ and Sergio
Posted on 2/21/23 at 7:09 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 2/21/23 at 7:09 pm to lsupride87
Where is adidas spending the money instead? Many of you like to attack LIV but really do companies make enough money off the advertising these days with so many more companies competing that are able to provide a better product with direct marketing.
This post was edited on 2/21/23 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 2/21/23 at 7:51 pm to tiger626
If Tiger aint on your side, your fricked.
Posted on 2/21/23 at 9:21 pm to Front9Bandit
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plus they both married a lot of money
Sergio married into money? Deets?
Posted on 2/21/23 at 9:53 pm to MikeD
Sergio is married to some girl from Houston area I think.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 5:44 am to patnuh
Sergio married Marty Akins daughter, Angela.
Marty did well as a trial lawyer, but he just also happens to be the Uncle of one Drew Brees.
Sergio & Angela live in Austin now, believe in Spanish Oaks, as I know he’s a member there.
Marty did well as a trial lawyer, but he just also happens to be the Uncle of one Drew Brees.
Sergio & Angela live in Austin now, believe in Spanish Oaks, as I know he’s a member there.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 6:23 am to lsupride87
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Ask any former rock star or athlete. The money is awesome, but the crowds and spotlight are the real drug
Has Dustin Johnson ever struck you as a person that really wants to be in the spotlight?
Posted on 2/22/23 at 7:36 am to lsupride87
I don't have a dog in the PGA / LIV fight, and honestly don't understand the PGA (or LIV) fanboys. That said, it's not 100% accurate to say Adidas dropped Johnson. Seems like he asked out of the contract and Adidas was probably happy to oblige. There are times when both parties are happy to move on. If the article on ESPN is to be believed, it looks like he wanted an out so that he could leverage an equity stake and make more money. His Adidas contract was a 15 year $150 million contract, easy to believe with the money LIV is throwing around that he could make that up without much effort.
Adidas doesn't own Taylormade anymore, so that relationship still seems to be intact.
Here are some quotes from the article --
"Johnson, 38, is an equity owner and captain of the 4Aces GC. To build the team's brand identity and franchise value, according to the sources, Johnson believes wearing the team's logo on his shirt is important."
"As good as the relationship with Adidas has been, it just didn't fit in his plans," one of the sources said. "A major part of starting a team is establishing a brand identity and building that brand. The primary asset is the shirt."
"DJ needed a clean break to start his team. He's grateful to Adidas for letting him out of the deal."
Adidas doesn't own Taylormade anymore, so that relationship still seems to be intact.
Here are some quotes from the article --
"Johnson, 38, is an equity owner and captain of the 4Aces GC. To build the team's brand identity and franchise value, according to the sources, Johnson believes wearing the team's logo on his shirt is important."
"As good as the relationship with Adidas has been, it just didn't fit in his plans," one of the sources said. "A major part of starting a team is establishing a brand identity and building that brand. The primary asset is the shirt."
"DJ needed a clean break to start his team. He's grateful to Adidas for letting him out of the deal."
Posted on 2/22/23 at 7:39 am to lsupride87
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Sponsoring a LIV player from an ROI standpoint seems very dumb. It’s like those guys have disappeared.
Yes, because sponsoring an industry backed by the worlds most wealthy country is bad for business.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 7:59 am to lsupride87
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some point the answer for everything bad that happens to a liv player can’t be “who cares, money “.
For those guys, it really can.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 9:20 am to lsupride87
They didn’t drop DJ. It was a mutual parting where they let him out of his contract. He wanted his team logo to take the place of the Adidas one.
Typical uninformed pride post
Typical uninformed pride post
This post was edited on 2/22/23 at 9:22 am
Posted on 2/22/23 at 9:23 am to bopper50
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Just look at what a great catch for Callaway in signing Rahm last year.
Rahm’s new tequila endeavor is now sponsoring LIV.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 9:51 am to PureBlood
quote:I guess that’s why EasyPost is their biggest on course sponsor so far?
Yes, because sponsoring an industry backed by the worlds most wealthy country is bad for business.
I truly thought LIV would be more popular than this. But I guess we should have known. Americans never will and never have cared about other startups regardless if they have good players
I mean Jim Kelly, Steve young, and Hershel and others couldn’t make another football league work
This post was edited on 2/22/23 at 9:56 am
Posted on 2/22/23 at 9:56 am to lsupride87
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It’s so strange how quickly they have completely fallen out of the public sphere
This is true, but if DJ wins the Masters then he will be the toast of Golf again.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 10:05 am to tiger626
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Where is adidas spending the money instead?
They aren't. The Kanye fiasco set them back quite a bit, and I am taking an educated guess that they're cutting marketing expenses a fair bit. DJ and Sergio were probably their two most expensive golf ambassadors. Those two are now playing in a league that struggled to get 6 figure audiences last year, so the ROI is difficult to justify. I would guess they approached DJ and Sergio about renegotiating their contracts, and the equity investment is a light cover to let them both off. They haven't dropped Niemann yet, as a counterpoint.
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Many of you like to attack LIV but really do companies make enough money off the advertising these days with so many more companies competing that are able to provide a better product with direct marketing.
Who are you referencing here? Even the likes of Bonobos and Travis Matthew and the like do some advertising. There is no doubt that Callaway has benefit tremendously from luring Rahm over a year+ ago, as an OEM example.
This is, however, the sort of thing that was likely built into Sergio and DJ's contracts with LIV - there was some risk premium built in that they would lose sponsorship dollars, hence the huge up front offer.
This post was edited on 2/22/23 at 10:22 am
Posted on 2/22/23 at 10:48 am to The Pirate King
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Rahm’s new tequila endeavor is now sponsoring LIV.
I have a bottle of the Diamnte on my bar cart and it's crazy good for the price. I bought it after his Foreplay podcast name drop
Posted on 2/22/23 at 10:56 am to lsupride87
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I truly thought LIV would be more popular than this. But I guess we should have known. Americans never will and never have cared about other startups regardless if they have good players
Not sure that LIV is necessarily going after the US market exclusively. They are signing a lot of international players, I think with the intention of trying to be the big dog in all the places that the PGA doesn't have reach while being a solid second in the US. Now, I don't have their business model in hand, but their decisions seem to align with that, to become to world tour and a competitive US tour, or at least a series of special events rather than a tour in the typical sense.
Other Australians, like Cam Smith, as well as South African players will most likely end up with LIV, just because how the PGA basically screwed them and the ability to really ever play in their home country. The Euro tour could easily be eclipsed and the Asian tour as well. Outside of the US it's a wide open market, or at least one that ripe for competition.
What's going to be very interesting is that most of the US based big names have signed contracts that have lengths that pretty much align with their exemptions to the majors. Most have signed anywhere from 2-4 year contracts that unsurprisingly line up with the end of their exemptions. Is LIV using them to jump start the league and then going to rely on the world market? Or does the league just die from talent drain when the contracts dry up.
This post was edited on 2/22/23 at 11:10 am
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:20 am to lsupride87
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When these guys turned on the WM and Gen the last two weeks, their blood boiled.
Ask any former rock star or athlete. The money is awesome, but the crowds and spotlight are the real drug
You're just making shite up at this point.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:27 am to The Pirate King
quote:Adidas wanted the whole shirt. DJ could not do that.
They didn’t drop DJ. It was a mutual parting where they let him out of his contract. He wanted his team logo to take the place of the Adidas one.
quote:Dude is completely unhinged. Not sure I've been more embarrassed for a poster here. Like a combo of oweo and dukkev, just on golf.
Typical uninformed pride post
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:43 am to AlxTgr
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Like a combo of oweo and dukkev, just on golf.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:14 pm to bnb9433
I seem to remember the LIV contracts requiring their players to wear LIV branded gear. 4 Aces would fall into that category. I'm thinking the way the LOV contracts were set up forced the Adidas logo off the shirt so Adidas probably wondered why they were paying these guys. Hence, a mutual parting of ways.
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