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Posted on 9/10/26 at 4:47 pm to
Posted by Roaad
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I'm pretty sure SBI doesn't nothing but act as an consultant they have practically no sway in the writing of a game.
There would be no point in hiring someone you aren't going to listen to. Being a consultant doesn't mean you have no sway.

It means you COULD have no sway, and the dev just wanted to piss away some money. Or you could be assisting in the writing. Or you could be doing sensitivity readings. Or you could be aiding representation goals. Or they could be handling whole sections.

But what we DO know is that every game they touch turns to shite. . . and are generally checkbox slop.

I love hearing devs defend using them, and watching their game sell in the dozens. At least this game should be immune to some of that, since SBI and Insomniac have gone to great lengths to hide their involvement.

But hey, go off. . .defend SBI. Definitely makes your opinion more valuable.
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Posted on 9/10/26 at 4:52 pm to
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Alan Wake II
took 3 years to turn a profit. SBI contribution was (allegedly) race-swapping Saga and making her the main character. . .the only aspect of the excruciatingly safe game that people disliked

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Ragnarok
Boring as frick

Apparently their only contribution was making the one chick black. Because blacks need to see themselves in Norse Mythology

quote:

Sweet Baby Inc. provided narrative and character consultation for God of War Ragnarök, specifically focusing on representation and making the character Angrboda more relatable to Black audiences within the Norse mythology setting.


This post was edited on 9/10/26 at 4:59 pm
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Posted on 9/10/26 at 5:06 pm to
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
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Posted on 9/10/26 at 5:14 pm to
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took 3 years to turn a profit.


The race swap had very little to do with this though.
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Posted on 9/10/26 at 5:17 pm to
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The race swap had very little to do with this though.
I didn't say it did

I said it was the only thing they did, and also the only thing that caused negative controversy.

The game was safe AF




ETA: FTR, SBI wasn't outed until Suicide Squad KTJL. Alan Wake (2023) and Ragnarok (2022) were well before that.
This post was edited on 9/10/26 at 5:23 pm
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
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Posted on 9/10/26 at 5:22 pm to
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The game was safe AF


I don't want to derail this thread, but this is an interesting take.
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Posted on 9/10/26 at 5:25 pm to
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I don't want to derail this thread, but this is an interesting take.
It bent over backwards to be as inoffensive and safe as possible.

Replaced "moody and tense" from 1 with "just make it (lighting) darker with whiny music" and when all else fails, have the characters just tell you how you are supposed to be feeling.
This post was edited on 9/10/26 at 5:26 pm
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
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Posted on 9/10/26 at 5:33 pm to
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It bent over backwards to be as inoffensive and safe as possible.

Replaced "moody and tense" from 1 with "just make it (lighting) darker with whiny music" and when all else fails, have the characters just tell you how you are supposed to be feeling.


Alright, agree to disagree!

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Posted on 9/11/26 at 7:41 am to
I heard people complaining that Logan looks soft, art-wise

If they make him Danny Tanner when the mask's off. . .frick everything
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Posted on 9/11/26 at 12:55 pm to
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Posted on 9/11/26 at 1:30 pm to
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 9/11/26 at 1:44 pm to
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I'm pretty sure SBI doesn't nothing but act as an consultant


I'm going to disagree because here's what SBI does:

Script and Dialogue Writing: They help create or polish in-game text, character banter, and cinematic scenes.

Narrative Consultation: Studios hire them when a story feels incomplete, a world lacks depth, or characters feel underbaked.

Sensitivity and Authenticity Reads: They review stories to ensure non-white or marginalized characters are represented respectfully and realistically rather than as flat caricatures.

With that in mind, let's hear from Insomniac's Narrative Director:

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“Logan feels that yearning and he gets scared and pulls away. Sabretooth feels that yearning and it makes him hurt and want to lash out to exert that hurt outward. Hate and love are so hand in hand. You hurt me so I’m going to hurt you, and we’re still going to be linked because now the pain is shared.” -Insomniac Narrative Director Walt Williams


I mean... when someone says "Wolverine game" who doesn't think first of some deep exploration of a pain-sharing love language and the thin line between hate and a toxic love?

It's actually more work to dilute away from the core of what gamers are looking for with a Wolverine game: the desire to feel like an unkillable rage gremlin who can single-handedly solo an army then still have the time and energy to light up a cigar while he visibly heals after the fight.
Posted by StansberryRules
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Posted on 9/11/26 at 2:07 pm to
The discussion around the reviews has actually been pretty reasonable, as most people have pointed out that the 1-10 scale used is basically imaginary, almost nothing gets <5 unless it's a completely broken, unplayable mess.

If your game loads and runs, you get a 5 for showing up.

So the review scores for along time have been compressed between 6-10. Which is just a 1-5 scale in disguise. Seems like most movie reviewers still use 1-5 and aren't afraid to give 1-2's.

6 or 7 out of 10 doesn't sound all that bad but in reality it's more like a 1 or 2 out of 5.
Posted by VaeVictus
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Posted on 9/11/26 at 4:55 pm to
Sony needs to flush its leadership entirely. The people running it now are terrible at their job.

This game is an absolute joke.

Let's go team x.
This post was edited on 9/12/26 at 4:37 pm
Posted by CarolinaSandstorm
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Posted on 9/11/26 at 6:00 pm to
The homos and pronoun patrol have fricked up yet another game.
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 9/11/26 at 6:37 pm to
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The homos and pronoun patrol have fricked up yet another game.


This is my shocked face.
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Posted on 9/11/26 at 8:08 pm to
Skill up gave it their rare "Do not recommend"

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Posted on 9/12/26 at 4:18 pm to
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