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U.S. Senator Introduces Bill to Ban Pay to Win Micro and Loot Boxes
Posted on 5/8/19 at 5:05 pm
Posted on 5/8/19 at 5:05 pm
frick YOU EA
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Hawley will introduce the bill, “The Protecting Children from Abusive Games Act,” to the U.S. Senate soon. In press materials announcing the bill, Hawley’s team brought up the Activision game Candy Crush as an egregious example of pay-to-win microtransactions thanks to its $150 “Luscious Bundle” that comes with a whole bunch of goodies. This bill will also likely apply to a host of online games that feature loot boxes and other ways in which players can spend money for real benefits.
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“When a game is designed for kids, game developers shouldn’t be allowed to monetize addiction,” Hawley said in a press release. “And when kids play games designed for adults, they should be walled off from compulsive microtransactions. Game developers who knowingly exploit children should face legal consequences.”
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Posted on 5/8/19 at 5:35 pm to whatiknowsofar
or the federal government can stay out of video games and parents can monitor their children’s gaming and not leave them access to a credit card.
Posted on 5/8/19 at 5:51 pm to Tigers0891
You are fundamentally right imo, but 'parental involvement' is obviously not cutting it and I doubt that will change.
I don't promote gov regulation, but moral stands and monetary withholding will not stop pay to win and loot boxes at this point
I don't promote gov regulation, but moral stands and monetary withholding will not stop pay to win and loot boxes at this point
This post was edited on 5/8/19 at 5:59 pm
Posted on 5/8/19 at 6:05 pm to Tigers0891
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or the federal government can stay out of video games and parents can monitor their children’s gaming and not leave them access to a credit card.
Are you suggesting personal responsibility rather than having the nanny state protect us from ourselves?
frick outta here with that shite. It’s 2019.
Posted on 5/8/19 at 6:14 pm to Big_Slim
The MLB card market is where I go to get my gambling and number crunching nerdery out.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 8:53 am to whatiknowsofar
Not that I want to defend video game publishers, but how are loot boxes gambling when capsule toys exist?
I've also been to events and purchased $20 "mystery bags" that are filled with random DVDs and stuff. Guess that'll be illegal for minors too?
With loot boxes, you are actually obtaining something tangible for the money you spend. That's different from actual gambling.
I've also been to events and purchased $20 "mystery bags" that are filled with random DVDs and stuff. Guess that'll be illegal for minors too?
With loot boxes, you are actually obtaining something tangible for the money you spend. That's different from actual gambling.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 9:23 am to BulldogXero
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With loot boxes, you are actually obtaining something tangible for the money you spend.
???
Digital goods are a textbook example of intangible; They have no physical form.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 9:27 am to BulldogXero
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tangible
Posted on 5/9/19 at 9:29 am to whatiknowsofar
this bill is dogshit btw and I dont agree with it at all.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 9:42 am to whatiknowsofar
So the government has decided it should make sure some people don't unlock Obi Wan in BF2 before others?
How about we focus on other aspects of society, fellas
How about we focus on other aspects of society, fellas
Posted on 5/9/19 at 9:42 am to whatiknowsofar
Solely cosmetic loot boxes are fine, but bullshite and terrible IMO.
Pay to win loot boxes are fricking bullshite and shouldn't be allowed.
Pay to win loot boxes are fricking bullshite and shouldn't be allowed.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 10:00 am to whatiknowsofar
Just a few random thoughts:
1. I obviously don't like the idea of the government getting involved in regulating video games in any way. The amount of bad it will do will outweigh any good.
2. Companies really do need to clean this shite up on their own. Loot boxes and microtransactions don't HAVE to be gambling or unethical, but often are.
3. I pine for the days where you just plopped down your $50 and bought a game and that was it. It's such a simple, straightforward model and it works for pretty much every other product on the planet so I don't know why video games have to be any different but sadly those days aren't coming back, at least not in the AAA sphere.
1. I obviously don't like the idea of the government getting involved in regulating video games in any way. The amount of bad it will do will outweigh any good.
2. Companies really do need to clean this shite up on their own. Loot boxes and microtransactions don't HAVE to be gambling or unethical, but often are.
3. I pine for the days where you just plopped down your $50 and bought a game and that was it. It's such a simple, straightforward model and it works for pretty much every other product on the planet so I don't know why video games have to be any different but sadly those days aren't coming back, at least not in the AAA sphere.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 10:05 am to whatiknowsofar
Completely against that. Those dumbass kids and whales are basically subsidizing our games. I support that. I don’t need skins, just let me keep playing the games for free
Assuming only cosmetic boxes. Pay to win loot boxes are stupid and I don’t play games that have them
Assuming only cosmetic boxes. Pay to win loot boxes are stupid and I don’t play games that have them
This post was edited on 5/9/19 at 10:07 am
Posted on 5/9/19 at 10:19 am to Tigers0891
If only even 10% of parents were responsible enough to monitor their kids activities.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 10:24 am to Gusoline
You going to hover over your kid every single time they play any game ever?
Posted on 5/9/19 at 10:26 am to Tigers0891
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or the federal government can stay out of video games and parents can monitor their children’s gaming and not leave them access to a credit card.
Buwahahahahahaha
You do realize, they target children, right???
Posted on 5/9/19 at 11:01 am to whatiknowsofar
I don't care about pay to win but the GAMBLING loot boxes are just that gambling and should be regulated as such.
Don't give me some bullshite chance to get an item. Let me have the fracking item.
I avoid loot box games. Well, except Shadow of War but I didn't buy any boxes. The grind was real.
I just want the bullshite gambling aspect removed. And yes, it is 100% gambling. You wouldn't let your kids have access to a sports book site so they shouldn't have easy access to some bullshite loot scheme.
Don't give me some bullshite chance to get an item. Let me have the fracking item.
I avoid loot box games. Well, except Shadow of War but I didn't buy any boxes. The grind was real.
I just want the bullshite gambling aspect removed. And yes, it is 100% gambling. You wouldn't let your kids have access to a sports book site so they shouldn't have easy access to some bullshite loot scheme.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 11:29 am to Tigers0891
I can tell some of you don't have kids. I monitor my boys and their gaming activities. However, they are too damn smart. They find ways around any barrier. And game consoles/developers force you to add pay methods, then make purchasing these add-ons almost impossible to avoid. It is predator type behavior.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 12:14 pm to AUCE05
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It is predator type behavior.
And this is the whole issue. Loot boxes are built from the ground up to trigger the same experiences as slot machines, in terms of brain chemistry and psychology. Their business model is essentially exploiting human weakness.
You want to sell a skin or a gun or something? Fine. Slap a price tag on it and sell it.
They don't want one time purchases though. They want you to keep hitting that little lever over and over again. So they build addiction machines.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 12:24 pm to AUCE05
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And game consoles/developers force you to add pay methods
What game forces you to add pay methods outside of MMOs?
This post was edited on 5/9/19 at 12:26 pm
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