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Posted on 8/22/20 at 10:48 am to
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 8/22/20 at 10:48 am to
What's the best pre built computer for around 600
Posted by GoldenD
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Posted on 8/23/20 at 10:59 am to
What will you be using the pc to do? Assuming you have mouse, KB, monitor already.
Posted by Devious
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 8:23 am to
More bang for your buck if you build.

Prebuilts are usually full of bloat parts and buzzwords.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 8:35 am to
I wouldn't trust any pre-built PC for gaming. If you need it for work or education then ok.


Pre-builts cut costs in components like power supplies and fans. Neither of which is something you want to skimp out on.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 11:12 am to
Anyone catch the pricing leaks for RTX 3xxx?

3060 - $400
3070 - $600
3080 - $800
3090 - $1400

Some rumors the Titan card will be dropped and that's basically the new 3090 at a much "reduced price" from previous Titan.

That 3080 better be at least as good a 2080Ti.

They pushed they 3070 up another $100 to $600 from $500 for 2070/2070 super. they also pushed up the 3080 another $100 from $700 on 2080/2080 Super to $800 on new card. Nvidia is ridiculous. Better be FE card pricing and AIBs will be $100 cheaper.
This post was edited on 8/25/20 at 11:15 am
Posted by bluebarracuda
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 11:48 am to
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Nvidia is ridiculous.


No competition
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 1:07 pm to
AMD stock holders rejoice.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 3:16 pm to
Okay so if we go by leaks and a little of what we do know...

Big Navi top card is around 15% performance jump over the 2080ti. The 3080 all we know is that it's a little over a 2080ti or right at it.

I'd guess big Navi top card to sit between 3080 and 3090 closer to 3080. They'll undercut that price at $700.

They'll launch a massive marketing campaign around next gen AMD which is why they're all releasing in November. So they'll market Big Navi, the next gen consoles, and Zen 3 in the same month.

fricking love it. Hopefully they will offer some bundles maybe with another small discount grab a 4800X and the 5900XT with an extra like $50 off as a bundle. That would be smart.
This post was edited on 8/25/20 at 3:17 pm
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 3:44 pm to
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fricking love it. Hopefully they will offer some bundles maybe with another small discount grab a 4800X and the 5900XT with an extra like $50 off as a bundle. That would be smart.



Microcenter is going to be an awesome place.

I got my 3600, X570 Aorus Elite and 5700XT when the XT and 3xxx launched launched last summer for $100 off due to bundles from Microcenter. They were running $50 off CPU/Mobo combos and also $50 off on 5700 XTs when bought with 3xxx CPU or X570 mobo IIRC, so basically at launch I got a 3600 for $150 and 5700 XT for $350 to save $100.
This post was edited on 8/25/20 at 3:46 pm
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 8/25/20 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

Big Navi top card is around 15% performance jump over the 2080ti. The 3080 all we know is that it's a little over a 2080ti or right at it.

I'd guess big Navi top card to sit between 3080 and 3090 closer to 3080. They'll undercut that price at $700


i agree with this. seems like a good plan
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 8/27/20 at 12:45 pm to
LINK

quote:

Confirmed: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 has 24GB memory, RTX 3080 gets 10GB - VideoCardz.com


watch Big Navi come out with 16gb
Posted by Devious
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Posted on 8/27/20 at 12:55 pm to
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24GB memory
but why
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 8/27/20 at 1:12 pm to
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but why

I know, it is a waste.

12GB Modules, so to get full bus width when increasing VRAM above 12GB, you need 2 modules (24GB).

I don't hit anywhere close to 10GB @ 2160 on this 2080Ti. However, if I still ran something like surround, I could see some games becoming uncomfortably close to that 12GB limit.

Haven't decided if I'm going 3090 or 3080. A 3090 + Block will be around $1800. It all depends if it is a FULL DIE with all SMUs enabled. If they plan on releasing something later on like usual, might just get the 3080.

Planning on monitor update too, the selections are still garbage.

Oh and building a new desk, plus putting new floors down in gaming/computer room this month. Currently in the process of selecting age-appropriate decor which tells you exactly who I am when you walk into the room. This is turning out to be difficult since I am a bi-polar temporal addict, my interests change just like the wind.

Edt: Too many concurrent projects that require temporary storage space. Desk build, floors, and other things, I'm limited within my garage.


This post was edited on 8/27/20 at 1:29 pm
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 8/27/20 at 1:34 pm to
if I go 3090 and decide to switch my 9900k to a Ryzen CPU (3900X or 4000 series), I'll have to swap to an AM4 MB. how tall a task is that?

this Asus X570-E looks nice and comparable to the one I have (Z390-E)
This post was edited on 8/27/20 at 1:55 pm
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 8/27/20 at 1:48 pm to
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They'll launch a massive marketing campaign around next gen AMD which is why they're all releasing in November. So they'll market Big Navi, the next gen consoles, and Zen 3 in the same month.

I'm really beginning to reconsider switching back to Intel for the Main Build. I love the 3900X, but feel like it is holding me back in some tiles, esp right now with MSFS2020.

Hoping Zen 3 delivers a decent bump up to IPC through higher clocks or architecture. IDC, just something more than 5-10%.
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 8/27/20 at 1:53 pm to
I have the ASUS ROG Strix X570-F. Decent board, one of the best RAM Overclocking boards I have ever owned (RAM OC is mostly MOBO specific).

Recommendation if you do go this route don't get the X570-F, get the version with a physical CLEAR CMOS button. This one, for whatever reason, is jumper only. Didn't know that before purchase. Makes it a pain when OCing if you don't post.

Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 8/27/20 at 1:55 pm to
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CLEAR CMOS


what is this for? flashes it? haven't experimented with OCing
This post was edited on 8/27/20 at 2:09 pm
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 8/27/20 at 2:16 pm to
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what is this for? haven't experimented with OCing

If a bad config doesn't pass POST (not OS BOOT, but POST = Power On Self Test), this will Restore BIOS settings to Default Settings.

FYI the battery on the MOBO is also for CMOS MOSFETS. Since CMOS is analog and not digital, to save any BIOS settings and not have to re-enable after every boot or power loss, the battery delivers power during off-states to maintain the switched state of all gates. If not, the gates would be switch to their default states.

Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 8/27/20 at 2:33 pm to
interesting, that sounds nice
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 8/27/20 at 2:45 pm to
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watch Big Navi come out with 16gb


That's what the leaks have been.

Still waiting on a delivery date for my LG GN950. That + Big Navi + 4900X + new case.
This post was edited on 8/27/20 at 2:50 pm
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