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Games that were criticized at the time but remembered fondly now
Posted on 8/8/26 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 8/8/26 at 1:20 pm
I distinctly remember Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 being criticized back in the day for it essentially being "more of the same." Tony Hawk 4 on the other hand was widely praised for being a departure from what came before.
These days, it feels like Pro Skater 3 is, for many people, the best in the franchise and Tony Hawk 4 is kind of forgotten.
Personally, I think Underground 1 was the series peak.
Likewise Jedi Academy was criticized for doing away with series protagonist Kyle Katarn and eschewing the story-based structure for a nearly unrelated series of missions.
These days, while Jedi Knight is still looked upon fondly, most people will jump straight to Jedi Academy as you get a light saber from the beginning as opposed to slogging through half a game of meh FPS mechanics. Likewise, the mission-based structure seems to be just what people want from the series as it fits the theme of "Jedi Simulator" better than anything that has come before or after.
These days, it feels like Pro Skater 3 is, for many people, the best in the franchise and Tony Hawk 4 is kind of forgotten.
Personally, I think Underground 1 was the series peak.
Likewise Jedi Academy was criticized for doing away with series protagonist Kyle Katarn and eschewing the story-based structure for a nearly unrelated series of missions.
These days, while Jedi Knight is still looked upon fondly, most people will jump straight to Jedi Academy as you get a light saber from the beginning as opposed to slogging through half a game of meh FPS mechanics. Likewise, the mission-based structure seems to be just what people want from the series as it fits the theme of "Jedi Simulator" better than anything that has come before or after.
Posted on 8/8/26 at 2:11 pm to BulldogXero
FF13
That game still has better graphics than like half the stuff released on ps5 and it’s a very fun game that imo got unfairly got slapped as a hallway simulator.
It is true the first 10 chapters are all extremely linear but then when you get to pulse you have an entire open world with 100 optional monsters fights to do, titans trials, super bosses, etc
The game gets incredibly punishing if you don’t at least do the first 15 monster missions before moving on from pulse
That game still has better graphics than like half the stuff released on ps5 and it’s a very fun game that imo got unfairly got slapped as a hallway simulator.
It is true the first 10 chapters are all extremely linear but then when you get to pulse you have an entire open world with 100 optional monsters fights to do, titans trials, super bosses, etc
The game gets incredibly punishing if you don’t at least do the first 15 monster missions before moving on from pulse
This post was edited on 8/8/26 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 8/8/26 at 2:21 pm to td01241
I think that falls more under the catagory of “games you like that nobody else does”
I don’t think anybody looks back on FF13 today and has changed their mind about it. The graphics are great though.
I don’t think anybody looks back on FF13 today and has changed their mind about it. The graphics are great though.
This post was edited on 8/8/26 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 8/8/26 at 2:37 pm to td01241
quote:
a very fun game that imo got unfairly got slapped as a hallway simulator
I don’t think it was unfair to label it that when 10 out of 13 or however many chapters were exactly that.
By the time I got to pulse I was tired of the game. I did some of the stuff there but I put it down and to this day have not had the desire to go back to it. It’s the only one since 7 was released that I never cared to finish
Posted on 8/8/26 at 2:41 pm to BulldogXero
Cyberpunk due to the issues at launch.
I’d argue it’s in an elite tier now given Phantom Liberty and the fixes they made.
I’d argue it’s in an elite tier now given Phantom Liberty and the fixes they made.
Posted on 8/8/26 at 3:53 pm to cfish140
quote:This
don’t think anybody looks back on FF13 today and has changed their mind about it. The graphics are great though.
Posted on 8/8/26 at 3:57 pm to Roaad
I really enjoy the 13 trilogy.
It’s obviously not in the same stratosphere of 6-10. It is better than 12 and 15 though easily imo. 16 is just way too different to compare them too imo
I’d rank FF something like
10
tactics
6
7
9
13 13-2 LR
16
8
12
15*
15 had so muh potential though
It’s obviously not in the same stratosphere of 6-10. It is better than 12 and 15 though easily imo. 16 is just way too different to compare them too imo
I’d rank FF something like
10
tactics
6
7
9
13 13-2 LR
16
8
12
15*
15 had so muh potential though
This post was edited on 8/8/26 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 8/9/26 at 10:07 am to BulldogXero
RDR2 was criticized as “not fun” when released.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 10:32 am to td01241
quote:The problem wasn’t the level design or fighting.
FF13
The characters sucked hard.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 11:26 am to cubsfan5150
quote:
RDR2 was criticized as “not fun” when released.
This was actually a hot take when it came out. Everyone had crowned it game of the century but there were a few people who pointed out "it's not fun to actually PLAY this game".
I remember Dan Ryckert nominating it for "Most Disappointing Game" that year in the Giant Bomb GOTY discussions. Everyone thought he was nuts since it was probably a shoe in for game of the year, but he made his case...everyone about this game is great except the absolute horrid mechanics, it made him stop playing it at some point, and I think RDR2 won that category.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 11:58 am to sicboy
I think it worked for RDR2 because you felt immersed in the setting. I do not want to see GTA like that.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 4:51 pm to Scruffy
Hope is I agree in FF13 the single worst character in the series history
In 13-2 he is age up to around Sarah’s age and is way way better
In 13-2 he is age up to around Sarah’s age and is way way better
Posted on 8/9/26 at 5:38 pm to cubsfan5150
quote:
RDR2 was criticized as “not fun” when released
It doesn't help the first 5-10 hours are painfully slow.
And "fun" isn't exactly an adjective that's used to describe it much even to this day.
It's a masterpiece but not exactly fun in the traditional video game sense, especially until it fully opens up.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 10:09 am to BulldogXero
Early resident evil games. Mostly due to the controls
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