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re: Classic WoW release date announced
Posted on 5/21/19 at 11:13 am to BulldogXero
Posted on 5/21/19 at 11:13 am to BulldogXero
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Things like mana regen and clunky class mechanics will irk some people used to more recent iterations of WoW.
People are in for a really rough time raiding wise. Once they figure out each class basically has only spec thats usable for raiding
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 11:26 am to Greace
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People are in for a really rough time raiding wise. Once they figure out each class basically has only spec thats usable for raiding
No Shaman tanking? Lol
Posted on 5/21/19 at 12:56 pm to Greace
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People are in for a really rough time raiding wise. Once they figure out each class basically has only spec thats usable for raiding
I will never understand this criticism of classic...there isn’t supposed to be balance...each class is supposed to be different and excel at certain things...should druids be able to do comparable damage in raid to mages while also being able to heal, tank, stealth, and battle Rez? No because then they’d be broken...class identity is so important and just because a certain spec isn’t viable to raid doesn’t mean it’s worthless.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 1:10 pm to LSUGent
This seems like a basic premise for MMO raids. Is he saying classic will suck because you won't be able to cheese them?
This post was edited on 5/21/19 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 5/21/19 at 1:48 pm to sicboy
Greace just thinks there won't be enough people that like Classic for what it is to sustain it. Classic will no doubt turn the lazy turds that have survived off of catch-up mechanics the last 4 years off, but I think there's still enough of a base that wanted a true MMO grind for it to have significant numbers.
I'm more interested in seeing how people react to wiping in leveling dungeons. Once it's not meta to just blow through all of the instanced content by pulling 10 mobs at a time, I'm curious to see if the lack of LFR and spammable dungeon queues will teach players not to just dip at the first sign of trouble.
I'm more interested in seeing how people react to wiping in leveling dungeons. Once it's not meta to just blow through all of the instanced content by pulling 10 mobs at a time, I'm curious to see if the lack of LFR and spammable dungeon queues will teach players not to just dip at the first sign of trouble.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 2:07 pm to Drewbie
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I'm curious to see if the lack of LFR and spammable dungeon queues will teach players not to just dip at the first sign of trouble.
Some people will initially but once they spend 30 min getting another group together they will be more likely to do some CC and actually try to use the games intended mechanics.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 2:28 pm to sicboy
Classic wow has 9 classes(8 on each faction) each class has 3 talent specializations. So that's a total of 27 different possibilities in classes. Raids are 40 man sizes with 2 tanks usually around 10 or so healers and the rest dps. The biggest problem with that is that of the 27 specializations only about 10 or so are actually wanted for raids. With warriors basically being the only class of the 3 "tanking" classes who can actually tank until much later in content stuff that will be releasing sometime nearing the end of classics timeline.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 3:02 pm to Greace
Class balance was definitely a big issue back in Vanilla, but will it really be an issue in Classic? I've never played on any of the un-official servers, so I don't know, but I can't imagine it would be as bad as it was back then. It's not like anyone can go for a world first or want's to raid to see the content, it's bound to be more laid back than it was. Sure there will be min-max guilds, but I imagine the vast majority of people who will play classic are doing it to recapture a little of that vanilla magic. Going around being dicks to your shadow priests, ret paladins, and feral druids doesn't sound like a useful way to spend time.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 3:49 pm to TigerNutwhack
There will absolutely be casual guilds who won’t deny you a spot because of your spec...however if you’re in a guild like that be prepared to progress MUCH slower than a guild who optimizes classes and spec’s efficiently...and honestly even semi hardcore guilds who for the most part min max could afford to throw a few spots away to meme spec’s...the meme spec’s would just be a lot lower priority for gear unless you’re guild is DKP...which the most hardcore guilds aren’t.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 3:51 pm to TigerNutwhack
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be as bad as it was back then. It's not like anyone can go for a world first or want's to raid to see the content, it's bound to be more laid back than it was. Sure there will be min-max guilds, but I imagine the vast majority of people who will play classic are doing it to recapture a little of that vanilla magic. Going around being dicks to your shadow priests, ret paladins, and feral druids doesn't sound like a useful way to spend time.
I know I will feel that way. What I remember from vanilla is that Levelingwas the adventure not just a inconvenience to get to the end game. Feral druid is a fun class to level. I don’t care that I won’t have a guaranteed rate spot because I’ve seen the content. My focus will be on pure enjoyment. I am leveling a prot warrior because one of my other best friends in real wife wants to level a holy priest so the two of us questing and getting dungeon groups together will be a lot of fun. And since gold will be much greater demand I plan on leveling my professions as we go along. All the things a true MMORPG is supposed to be
Posted on 5/21/19 at 3:57 pm to LSUGent
I played during the WotLK days and loved it until Cata killed my hunter but I have been contemplating getting back into it for years and this might be the final push. And I just finished building a new PC so I should be good to go.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 4:00 pm to Relham10
no better time than now to get into the mmo scene again...I truly believe classic will supplant retail as far as popularity and player base...and everyone has a vested interest in its success because that will mean a relaunch of TBC and Wotlk...we’ll get to re-experience the best MMO content ever madePosted on 5/21/19 at 4:05 pm to LSUGent
It truly is. And all of this talk about the classes being more specifically designed for a certain role is actually less of a issue then people are saying. If you quest and run dungeons and level your professions and have a well rounded character that you fully know and understand how to play At a high-level then there will likely be a raid spot for you. But people need to understand that The game is designed to be an open adventure not just a race to see who can clear dungeons the fastest with the best gear. If that’s what you’re looking for then retail is probably better suited for you
Posted on 5/21/19 at 4:16 pm to Purple Spoon
quote:Bingo.
The game is designed to be an open adventure not just a race to see who can clear dungeons the fastest with the best gear. If that’s what you’re looking for then retail is probably better suited for you
This post was edited on 5/21/19 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 5/21/19 at 4:43 pm to LSU Coyote
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Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I feel like classic WOW was a time and place kind of experience. A lot of the appeal for me was the fact that it felt like the world was truly unexplored. The specific drop rates of every item and their stats weren't cataloged yet. Information on where to find certain quests and their requirements were exchanged with guildmates and on message boards.
You aren't.
Classic private servers have more active players than retail...
Posted on 5/21/19 at 9:17 pm to LSUGent
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There will absolutely be casual guilds who won’t deny you a spot because of your spec...however if you’re in a guild like that be prepared to progress MUCH slower than a guild who optimizes classes and spec’s efficiently...and honestly even semi hardcore guilds who for the most part min max could afford to throw a few spots away to meme spec’s...the meme spec’s would just be a lot lower priority for gear unless you’re guild is DKP...which the most hardcore guilds aren’t
That's just the thing, who really cares about progressing? I mean, sure you want to make your character better, but it's not like classic is anywhere near bleeding edge content. I'd also imagine most players who get to the point of raids in classic are better players than the majority of people who played back in vanilla. I've never seriously raided, but I was a far better player the last time I played than when I was derping around UBRS or MC. If you dont wipe the raid and are somewhat competent, who cares what spec you bring is all I'm saying. Just have fun adventuring.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 11:30 pm to TigerNutwhack
I just got access to the beta 
Pretty sure it'll only be for the stress test with a max level of 5 though
Pretty sure it'll only be for the stress test with a max level of 5 though
This post was edited on 5/21/19 at 11:36 pm
Posted on 5/22/19 at 1:35 am to JayDeerTay84
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Classic private servers have more active players than retail...
Do you have a link for that?
I highly doubt that.
Posted on 5/22/19 at 9:27 am to Mear
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I highly doubt that.
I also doubt it as well, but there is a LARGE following of the private servers. I've seen videos and screenshots of Ironforge during peak times on the private servers and it's packed with high level and geared players.
It's very popular and WoW Classic is going to do very well. Especially with BFA still having a good bit of time left before a new expansion comes out. When a new expansion comes out for retail it may pull some players away from it, but people (especially those who like classic) just don't enjoy BFA right now.
My question is how long does it stay popular? I mean are they just going to remake the game up until WotLK?
I got into the closed beta last week and I've been enjoying messing around on it. I'm not going to spend a whole lot of time until the actual release because I don't have the time to just have a character wiped and start ofer, but it kind of took me off guard on how DIFFERENT it really is.
I've played WoW since day 1 and I had completely forgotten how different it was. Little things like quests not showing up on minimap and quest objectives not labeling on the world map, and even single mob tagging make a huge difference.
I'm going to play it for the talent system, raids, and nostalgia. It just seems much more fun than BFA is.
Posted on 5/22/19 at 9:45 am to JayDeerTay84
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Classic private servers have more active players than retail...
That is a misleading statement. There may be more players per server on some private servers, but that's because it's 1 serer versus 50. There's absolutely more players on retail, and it's not even close.
I think that that classic will see an enormous influx of players upon release just due to curiosity, but you'll have a decent number of folks quit and go back to retail or whatever game they're currently playing.
Still, there's definitely an audience for this. I think it'll be more successful than the EQ classic servers that Daybreak has been doing for years.
The problem is though that eventually they're just gonna run out of content, and when 90% of the server population has 5 "max level" characters decked out in top tier raid gear, it will be impossible for new players to catch up. That is the benefit of releasing regularly scheduled expansions as it evens the playing field for new players looking to get into the game.
This post was edited on 5/22/19 at 9:48 am
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