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re: Why is america in love with hops?
Posted on 2/1/18 at 10:11 am to L S Usetheforce
Posted on 2/1/18 at 10:11 am to L S Usetheforce
South Coast is my favorite of theirs. But then again, I don't care for hops.
Posted on 2/1/18 at 10:48 am to L S Usetheforce
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However, it seems small crafts have focused on this genre as their main source of creativity.
I would say most craft brewers focus on blondes, lagers and maybe a pale ale. But there are many that barely brew an ipa....some that come to mind (Texas/DFW heavy list) Jester King, Blue Owl, Collective Brewing, Prairie, Bruery, Amarillo Ale Works, Lakewood Brewing ((their main focus of creativity is the Temptress Milk stout which they riff on with a BA version, Coffee (French Quarter Temptress), Raspberry...etc.)). Peticolas,Franconia (german style beers). I will throw in Russian River too. Sure Pliny gets love but they really give equal focus to sours. But I understand your feelings towards IpAs. I don't care for Gose but most brewers are churning those out because a lot of people love them. The fact is, there is pretty much any style of beer you want in craft beer.
This post was edited on 2/1/18 at 11:09 am
Posted on 2/1/18 at 10:55 am to Zappas Stache
quote:I wish this were the case.
I would say most craft brewers focus on blondes, lagers and maybe a pale ale.
Posted on 2/1/18 at 10:58 am to AlxTgr
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I wish this were the case.
You can throw a rock in Dallas and hit brewers like this. Its a rarity to find any that focus on IPAs......not sure I can name 1 that focuses on IPAs like Parish does....meaning multiple releases of different types of IPAs.
Posted on 2/1/18 at 11:00 am to Zappas Stache
I have not been to Dallas in a while. If you shop where I do, you will find IPAs from everyone. Lagers are tougher, and the best one is seasonal. Pisses me off.
Posted on 2/1/18 at 11:07 am to L S Usetheforce
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Their quad sucks....their barleywine sucks, their stouts aren't even in the same stratosphere of stone.
I'm not saying any of those are world class or on par with their IPAs, but they are all really good beers.
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The various sours are for hipsters.
Okay, clearly this is going to go nowhere. You have your opinion and will not consider others.
Parish DOES brew a variety of good beers. Their specialty happens to be IPAs. But you make it sound like they are Bearded Iris and do IPAs, and only IPAs.
This post was edited on 2/1/18 at 11:10 am
Posted on 2/1/18 at 11:10 am to AlxTgr
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I would say most craft brewers focus on blondes, lagers and maybe a pale ale.
I wish this were the case.
shite, I wish it wasn't
Posted on 2/1/18 at 11:12 am to L S Usetheforce
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their barleywine sucks,
It just recently was rated as one of the best non-barley aged barley wines
LINK
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will become clear pretty quickly while going down this list that standard, non-barrel-aged barleywines didn’t have the easiest time standing up to the flavors of the barrel-aged examples, so in order to make the ranked portion, the classic barleywines had to be that much better. This is that kind of beer, an exemplary take on American-style barleywine from Parish that features some of the best balance we saw in this particular substyle throughout the tasting. Drier than many of the others, it features a toasted bread/biscuity malt backbone, supported by subtle (but notable) hopping, which contributes piney, floral and herbal notes. Clean, well-composed and well balanced, it’s an excellent example of what the “base style” of American barleywine is all about.
Posted on 2/1/18 at 1:18 pm to Dire Wolf
Dry and gin go together. Dry and barleywine, to me, not so much.
Posted on 2/1/18 at 1:52 pm to AlxTgr
Just line my shelves with a bunch of different Bavarian beers and I would be a happy man. Pretty much most of the stuff coming out of Southern Germany works for me. I am a simple man with simple tastes.
Posted on 2/1/18 at 5:36 pm to convertedtiger
OK ... criticize and/or educate me.
I have been trying to discover beers and all I run into is bitterness...
I am a rum / wine drinker and with some whiskey thrown in occasionally.
My taste:
Modelo Especial,
Samuel Adams Light
at bars Bud/Budlight
In trying something new, I have and enjoy Fat Tire.
will not even tell you how many other I have thrown away.
Heineken and Corona are garbage to me... but they have done a great promotional job...gotta give them that.
Trying to find beers similar to Fat Tire, or non bitter
I have also enjoyed one of the Lakewood beers, although "slightly" bitter still I think it was temptress.
I have been trying to discover beers and all I run into is bitterness...
I am a rum / wine drinker and with some whiskey thrown in occasionally.
My taste:
Modelo Especial,
Samuel Adams Light
at bars Bud/Budlight
In trying something new, I have and enjoy Fat Tire.
will not even tell you how many other I have thrown away.
Heineken and Corona are garbage to me... but they have done a great promotional job...gotta give them that.
Trying to find beers similar to Fat Tire, or non bitter
I have also enjoyed one of the Lakewood beers, although "slightly" bitter still I think it was temptress.
Posted on 2/1/18 at 7:05 pm to rbdallas
Your taste buds work, and you haven't wrecked them yet. Keep it that as long as you can.
Posted on 2/1/18 at 7:23 pm to rbdallas
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I am a rum / wine drinker and with some whiskey thrown in occasionally
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have also enjoyed one of the Lakewood beers, although "slightly" bitter still I think it was temptress
You should try to grab the bourbon barrel temptress when it comes back out in December. I doubt anyone still has the 2017 now.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 6:43 am to rbdallas
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rbdallas
Looking at your list, try the Sam Adams Seasonals. Most of them will fit your flavor profiles. Fresh as Helles, Cold Snap, Winter Lager, Octoberfest(my favorite of the bunch). These will help ease you into the door of "craft" beers.
If you like rum, you may like things with a slightly sweet flavor profile. Try some of the bocks. Maibocks and dopplebocks.(going with my southern German theme)
If you like Modelo Especial, try Negra Modelo.
The best thing to do is remember the flavors you like and try to find them in other beers.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 6:54 am to TH03
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You should try to grab the bourbon barrel temptress when it comes back out in December. I doubt anyone still has the 2017 now
I saw them in a Kroger last week. A bunch.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 8:02 am to L S Usetheforce
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Their quad sucks....their barleywine sucks, their stouts aren't even in the same stratosphere of stone.
Stone hasn't brewed a stout worth a damn since the Espresso IRS 5 years ago.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 8:43 am to L S Usetheforce
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Their quad sucks..
It's pretty good actually. You have to like the style. I'm not a big fan of the style actually, but I enjoyed the quad.
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their barleywine sucks
Don't care for the style so I couldn't say if it does or doesn't. I used to love this beer. But my palate has changed.
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their stouts aren't even in the same stratosphere of stone.
Stone? That's an odd comparison. I haven't had a stone beer in a very long time, so I couldn't tell you. I used to enjoy RIS, but that was several years ago.
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The various sours are for hipsters.
Why are sours synonymous with hipsters? I love sours, and I detest hipsters.
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All they do good is IPAs......now you get the point?
Reve is pretty incredible.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 8:57 am to L S Usetheforce
quote:I get your point. You take your first sip of an IPA and it's like putting the grass from your lawn in your mouth. It's absolutely disgusting and only worth a drain pour.
Why is america in love with hops?
Then for some reason, that IPA calls on you again. You know it's horrible, and you really don't want to drink your lawn again. But for some reason, you do it anyway. But something is different this time. Sure you have that "grassy" taste, but all of the sudden it's not so bad. Then you start getting hints of other things such as lemon, other fruits, and a pine tree air freshener that used to be in your car. But for some strange reason, you start to dig it.
So now you start trying different IPA styles and find that you really dig some of them. You're actually going out of your way to try new and interesting styles. Of course there is still a grassy or piney undertone (or overtone), but damn they're refreshing. Then you cut your grass and get that fresh grass smell in your nose and instantly reach for an IPA in the refrigerator. Now you're hooked and are in love with hops.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 9:03 am to L S Usetheforce
Is the "I don't like IPAs" thread going to be a monthly tradition on the F&DB this year?
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