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re: What the 2021 crawfish season will look like for Louisiana

Posted on 1/15/21 at 12:07 pm to
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Bogalusa
Member since Jul 2018
4760 posts
Posted on 1/15/21 at 12:07 pm to
It's.....

too hot
too wet
too cold
too dry
too early
too late
too dark
too bright
too muddy
too clean
too many hurricanes
not enough hurricanes


Am I missing any?


eta (I'll keep a running list ):

Oil prices too high
Oil prices too low
Too many Covid cases
Not enough Covid cases


I think you are talking about the strawberry farmers in Tangi parish.
Posted by Pintail
Member since Nov 2011
10437 posts
Posted on 1/15/21 at 12:29 pm to
quote:

Speaking as a crawfish farmer,



Posted by saintsfan1977
West Monroe, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
7698 posts
Posted on 1/15/21 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

still don’t understand why anyone would choose crawfish over shrimp for boils. More meat



I'll take blue point crabs over both.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58122 posts
Posted on 1/15/21 at 12:53 pm to
Get out of here with all of that common sense
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21223 posts
Posted on 1/15/21 at 1:11 pm to
I mean...if everyone thinks crawfish are too expensive for what they are, then they should stop buying every bit a restaurant can boil at $8 per pound.

Evidently the demand is there to sell at those prices. Should the producers of the product just opt to sell at prices way below demand out of the kindness of their heart?
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
10456 posts
Posted on 1/15/21 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

Can you tell us why?
Clearly this triggered you. I can not. I'm not a Crawfish farmer. I just know every year there is a different excuse. So much to the fact the running joke on the OT. Care to provide us the answers to all of these questions. We'd like specifics please.
quote:

How many sacks a day should the avg farmer catch in January?
Tell us the cost of land rent/ traps/boats/ irrigation/ labor / fuel
Tell us how many acres there are in the US - how many pound they produce and when and how many pounds are consumed
Tell us the cost of transporting/sorting/ boiling/peeling/etc
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21223 posts
Posted on 1/15/21 at 1:33 pm to
Stop buying crawfish, then. Start up a Facebook campaign for everyone to stop eating them, if you feel that strongly about it.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5014 posts
Posted on 1/15/21 at 1:42 pm to
quote:


Clearly this triggered you. I can not. I'm not a Crawfish farmer. I just know every year there is a different excuse. So much to the fact the running joke on the OT. Care to provide us the answers to all of these questions. We'd like specifics please.


Yea I'm so triggered
That joke is also played out

You can look it all up on the LSU Agcenter website and you will get the basics


What do you think the price of crawfish should be in Jan? How about in March, April and May.

You think the price is the same every Jan and Feb? Already this year even though before this week less than 30% of the farmers were fishing its gone both down and up .$75

Were you complaining last year when the price was under $2/pound by Mardi Gras and was a dollar a pound the day after the covid shutdown hit?
Posted by Mr Fusion
The American Dream City
Member since Dec 2010
7457 posts
Posted on 1/15/21 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

Am I missing any?


eta (I'll keep a running list :lol):



Obama
Trump
McConnell
Edwards
Latoya
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52787 posts
Posted on 1/15/21 at 2:08 pm to
quote:

Can you tell us why?


I think if you live in Louisiana long enough, you don't have to be a crawfish farmer to understand that crawfish farmer's want to maximize profit and will use just about any reason to maintain high prices. There's always an excuse, but the more common ones are "too hot/too cold, too dry/too wet". Despite all of these are antonyms, they all have the same result. "Keep prices high".

Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52787 posts
Posted on 1/15/21 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

What do you think the price of crawfish should be in Jan? How about in March, April and May.

You think the price is the same every Jan and Feb? Already this year even though before this week less than 30% of the farmers were fishing its gone both down and up .$75


You know what, i blame it on the crawfish speculators. Artificially causing the prices to rise. Must be the same guys speculating frozen concentrated orange juice.



quote:

Were you complaining last year when the price was under $2/pound by Mardi Gras


Not at all, and i hope it returns to that level. Or, it could be as expensive as the few years before last year?

quote:

was a dollar a pound the day after the covid shutdown hit?




I don't recall this. When did this happen?
This post was edited on 1/15/21 at 2:12 pm
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5014 posts
Posted on 1/15/21 at 2:16 pm to
quote:


I think if you live in Louisiana long enough, you don't have to be a crawfish farmer to understand that crawfish farmer's want to maximize profit and will use just about any reason to maintain high prices


the farmers don't set the price. The market sets the price but really the big wholesale/retail places in Texas have a lot to do with it since Houston metro consumption is just as much as the whole state of LA

The price is $4/pound right now but most farmers are barely breaking even because they are not catching any crawfish. $4/pound don't mean shite when you catching 2 sacks for every 100ac

quote:

hey all have the same result. "Keep prices high".

yet the price is going to be under $2 during lent and around $1 after
What do you thinkt he price should be?
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5014 posts
Posted on 1/15/21 at 2:20 pm to
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Or, it could be as expensive as the few years before last year?


Oh you mean $2.75 in 2019 because the avg catch was way off
or do you mean $2-2.25 for the few years before that

If you did a weighted avg of most farmers prices for the last 10 years it would be under $1.50

quote:


I don't recall this. When did this happen?


It did and stayed like that for a month then went up $.25 because people stopped fishing
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
10456 posts
Posted on 1/15/21 at 2:36 pm to
You ask me to answer all these questions for you(as a gotcha), but when I ask you to answer them (since this is clearly an area of knowledge for you), you just tell me to Google it

quote:

Were you complaining last year when the price was under $2/pound by Mardi Gras and was a dollar a pound the day after the covid shutdown hit?
Maybe they were wholesale. But you weren't buying Crawfish for those prices anywhere in BR or NOLA.
This post was edited on 1/15/21 at 2:38 pm
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52787 posts
Posted on 1/15/21 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

If you did a weighted avg of most farmers prices for the last 10 years it would be under $1.50


I've never seen these prices in BR. But, i didn't really start paying attention until a couple years ago.

Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15092 posts
Posted on 1/15/21 at 2:55 pm to
Yep Tigerdew, the list of issues affecting the crawfish industry is never ending, and no matter how good we mere mortals think the season went, the retailers will be crying about how awful it was.

Reminds me of bookies I knew years ago always bitching how they got hammered week after week, but still driving Lincolns and Cadillacs with the Mr. T Starter Set around their necks and a pocket full of $100 bills.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5014 posts
Posted on 1/15/21 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

ask me to answer all these questions for you(as a gotcha), but when I ask you to answer them (since this is clearly an area of knowledge for you), you just tell me to Google it


Because you were running your mouth when you don’t know shite
Usually it’s better to gain some knowledge about what you are talking about instead of making yourself look like a fool
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
10456 posts
Posted on 1/15/21 at 3:20 pm to
quote:

Because you were running your mouth when you don’t know shite
So I'm just going to take this as you are unable to answer your own questions
quote:

Yea I'm so triggered
you seem pretty triggered now
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5014 posts
Posted on 1/15/21 at 4:17 pm to
quote:

I've never seen these prices in BR.


Are you buying straight from a farmer in Br?

If you buy straight field run not cleaned from the wholesaler who buys from the farm you can add $.25/pound
Clean or clean graded you can add more than that and if it goes to a bigger wholesaler or a restaurant probably can at least a $1.00
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5014 posts
Posted on 1/15/21 at 4:29 pm to
Ok since you are lazy and stupid

Avg numbers - $600/ac for
seed crawfish/fuel/labor/traps/other supplies/fertilizer

If you don't own the land you looking at atleast $75/ac cash rent.

Then you have tractors and any other farm equipment cost that crawfish has to pay its share with the rice along with irrigation equipment and the cost it takes to get the ground back ready for rice the next year

So say you catch 600#/ac and your avg price is $1.50 you are making money but you're not hitting the jackpot

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