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Tips and Where to Start Learning More About Wine?
Posted on 11/12/20 at 10:13 pm
Posted on 11/12/20 at 10:13 pm
I've always drank wine on occasion, and I actually really like it, but I admittedly don't really know much about it.
Looking for advice on where to begin to really start learning about wine. Suggestions?
Looking for advice on where to begin to really start learning about wine. Suggestions?
Posted on 11/12/20 at 10:36 pm to Hat Tricks
How drunk are you right now?
Posted on 11/12/20 at 10:37 pm to Hat Tricks
I started off just drinking different wines figuring out what I like. I started Off reading wine folly. It’s a website and block.
There are a lot of good books that kinda give you a good introduction to wine but really just trying different wine is good.
What would you ideally spend on a bottle
Of wine at this point?
There are a lot of good books that kinda give you a good introduction to wine but really just trying different wine is good.
What would you ideally spend on a bottle
Of wine at this point?
This post was edited on 11/12/20 at 11:03 pm
Posted on 11/12/20 at 10:45 pm to Hat Tricks
What’s to know?
Pop cork.
Pour in glass.
Pour into mouth
Step 2 is optional.
wineos are so easy to trigger
Pop cork.
Pour in glass.
Pour into mouth
Step 2 is optional.
This post was edited on 11/13/20 at 8:49 am
Posted on 11/13/20 at 5:02 am to Hat Tricks
If you just want a good introduction to a thirty five thousand foot view of wine, there are few books better than Windows on World by Kevin Zraly. Just a good clear easy to read Wine 101, but packed with loads of information. Start there.
Next step is to develop a relationship with a local wine shop, wine buyer, or whoever you can find. Poke around and ask about tasting groups or things you can participate in. And just drink what you like but taste it all.
Next step is to develop a relationship with a local wine shop, wine buyer, or whoever you can find. Poke around and ask about tasting groups or things you can participate in. And just drink what you like but taste it all.
This post was edited on 11/13/20 at 6:56 am
Posted on 11/13/20 at 6:36 am to Hat Tricks
Find a small, local wine store and start to frequent it. Tell the owner what you like in terms of taste. Those guys/ladies tend to have a font of knowledge that they will share with you. Also, pick up an issue of Wine Spectator. Easy read and good place to get indoctrinated.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 6:42 am to Hat Tricks
quote:Just make shite up - that's what everybody else does.
Tips and Where to Start Learning More About Wine
Posted on 11/13/20 at 6:47 am to Hat Tricks
If your end goal is to just be able to pick a good bottle to pair with a meal, or to find a good everyday drinker, find a good sommelier.
There are thousands of different brands, hundreds of varieties.
If you're in Lafayette, check out MySomm. Or go to phillipes and talk to Phillipe.
Let the experts guide you. I know guys who are HUGE wine guys. Like, go to vineyards all the time, spend thousands of dollars a pop. Even those guys use a sommelier to make choices.
Unless you want to become an expert, rely on an expert.
ETA: My point was, yes, read the books. But you can learn a lot more by developing a relationship with a som.
There are thousands of different brands, hundreds of varieties.
If you're in Lafayette, check out MySomm. Or go to phillipes and talk to Phillipe.
Let the experts guide you. I know guys who are HUGE wine guys. Like, go to vineyards all the time, spend thousands of dollars a pop. Even those guys use a sommelier to make choices.
Unless you want to become an expert, rely on an expert.
ETA: My point was, yes, read the books. But you can learn a lot more by developing a relationship with a som.
This post was edited on 11/13/20 at 6:49 am
Posted on 11/13/20 at 7:10 am to BitBuster
This is all true but the amount of restaurants with a truly dedicated somm is small and will probably dwindle post-COVID. So while yes if you go to a restaurant with an insanely large and in charge wine list the best thing you can do is ask for the sommelier or your waiter and say “you know this list better than I could pretend to know it in 10 minutes of flipping thru this book. Here is what we are eating, here is what we want to spend. What do you recommend? Got anything you are really loving but can’t convince people to try”
That last line is catnip to a sommelier who knows their stuff.
Wine has been largely democratized in the last few decades. It’s no longer snooty or just the subject of idle chatter at fancy cocktail parties. But with that I still think if someone wants to get into wine a few books will help you pick out wine at a restaurant or wine shop. And helps to have a conversation starting point so when you do go to that wine shop you can say “hey I am just getting into wine and I was just reading about Lambrusco or Australian white wines or I want to try compare old world pinot with new world”
That last line is catnip to a sommelier who knows their stuff.
Wine has been largely democratized in the last few decades. It’s no longer snooty or just the subject of idle chatter at fancy cocktail parties. But with that I still think if someone wants to get into wine a few books will help you pick out wine at a restaurant or wine shop. And helps to have a conversation starting point so when you do go to that wine shop you can say “hey I am just getting into wine and I was just reading about Lambrusco or Australian white wines or I want to try compare old world pinot with new world”
This post was edited on 11/13/20 at 7:18 am
Posted on 11/13/20 at 7:26 am to Hat Tricks
It’s like anything else. Just dive in and get dirty. I found joining a local wine club to be highly useful. There are some great documentaries on Netflix and YouTube that can help you appreciate and know more about wine history and wine production. Of course, there are lots of books.
And I know that this will get some smirks, but spend $100 or so on some equipment and start *making* wine using kits.
You’ll learn more in a year of your spare time than 90% of the population will ever know.
And if nothing else, remember the golden rule. If it tastes good, drink it. Forget the bs noise from people trying to impress you with how much more they know.
And no two bottles are the same.
Literally.
Ever.
And I know that this will get some smirks, but spend $100 or so on some equipment and start *making* wine using kits.
You’ll learn more in a year of your spare time than 90% of the population will ever know.
And if nothing else, remember the golden rule. If it tastes good, drink it. Forget the bs noise from people trying to impress you with how much more they know.
And no two bottles are the same.
Literally.
Ever.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 7:37 am to Hat Tricks
Wine For Normal People podcast
Posted on 11/13/20 at 7:46 am to FinleyStreet
Those people that taste wine and then spit it out are so fricking weird. Don't become one of those
Posted on 11/13/20 at 8:44 am to Hat Tricks
Rouses has a section of 90+ point rated wines under $10 a bottle. I'd start there and see what you like/what kind of flavors you pick up.
There have also been several good threads for low price point recs here, and several of those wines have been very good as well.
There have also been several good threads for low price point recs here, and several of those wines have been very good as well.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 9:08 am to Hat Tricks
Make friends with people who work at local wine shops and ask questions (not total wine, those employees are idiots). Hit up wine tastings and read!
Download the Vivino app
Focus on one region, study it, then move to the next.
Download the Vivino app
Focus on one region, study it, then move to the next.
This post was edited on 11/13/20 at 9:12 am
Posted on 11/13/20 at 9:15 am to Hat Tricks
Aside from finding a good local wine store or a knowledgeable friend...
I basically got involved in some wine sites/groups that were way over my head - like WineBerserkers or similar, and then diligently went and looked up everything I didn't understand. It takes a while but I think going about it like that is very effective.
I certainly endorse reading Wine Folly or World Atlas of Wine. Madeline Puckette's youtubes are very solid (WineFolly). But I found that getting practically stumped (not understanding a post or comment on a message board/article) and being forced to go down the rabbit hole of figuring it out is better for my knowledge retention. It also by nature helps you to understand how things work in a practical context.
The only caveat is that it'll tailor your preferences to wherever you start. So if you start with a high end wine board/club and learn from that, you'll skip the part where you're in love with consumer/mass market wines. Which is fine if you want to end up a wine snob and looking down on Caymus well before you'd ever reach that point naturally.
CellarTracker is a great resource to track what you like/don't like and there is a ton of compiled knowledge there. It's far better than looking at consumer reviews on websites.
SommTV, which I don't think I have anymore, was pretty cool. Unless you're really into it you may find it boring, but watching them do blind tastings will entertain you and inform you.
I basically got involved in some wine sites/groups that were way over my head - like WineBerserkers or similar, and then diligently went and looked up everything I didn't understand. It takes a while but I think going about it like that is very effective.
I certainly endorse reading Wine Folly or World Atlas of Wine. Madeline Puckette's youtubes are very solid (WineFolly). But I found that getting practically stumped (not understanding a post or comment on a message board/article) and being forced to go down the rabbit hole of figuring it out is better for my knowledge retention. It also by nature helps you to understand how things work in a practical context.
The only caveat is that it'll tailor your preferences to wherever you start. So if you start with a high end wine board/club and learn from that, you'll skip the part where you're in love with consumer/mass market wines. Which is fine if you want to end up a wine snob and looking down on Caymus well before you'd ever reach that point naturally.
CellarTracker is a great resource to track what you like/don't like and there is a ton of compiled knowledge there. It's far better than looking at consumer reviews on websites.
SommTV, which I don't think I have anymore, was pretty cool. Unless you're really into it you may find it boring, but watching them do blind tastings will entertain you and inform you.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 9:23 am to Hat Tricks
Total Wine or any other reputable wine store have pretty knowledgeable people on staff. Tell them what you like and ask them to point you to the best values in the store. Once you expand your horizons, you can say for example I like Cabernet or Syrah, but I would like to try something similar from France or Italy etc. At least you will have a good time trying!
Posted on 11/13/20 at 10:06 am to Hat Tricks
There was an incredible podcast back when they first became a thing (2005-2007) called "Wine for Newbies" that is sadly no longer available. The creator went through all the different varieties. Explained what made them unique, where some of the best varieties were made, what to look for when your drinking them, what they paired well with, etc. I wish I could go back and listen to them all over again to refresh myself.
I'm sure you could go over to reddit.com/r/wine and learn a lot.
What do you know! Archive.org has archived all the old Wine for Newbies shows.
Wine for Newbies archive
I'm sure you could go over to reddit.com/r/wine and learn a lot.
What do you know! Archive.org has archived all the old Wine for Newbies shows.
Wine for Newbies archive
This post was edited on 11/13/20 at 10:19 am
Posted on 11/13/20 at 10:15 am to BlackenedOut
quote:
Next step is to develop a relationship with a local wine shop,
This is a good start. Sign up for their social media or email and start visiting them. Talk and try stuff. During non covid times most places will have free tastings, etc.
15 or so years ago for my birthday my wife signed me up for a beginners wine class at Martin Wine Cellar. It was a six class session where they taught the basics and you tasted lot's of wines and they always had cheese/bread, etc to pair with it.
It doesn't take long to start learning what you like and you will pick up on the different kinds and styles pretty quickly. I would suggest focusing on just US wine and regions in the beginning.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 10:49 am to Hat Tricks
I found a book by Jancis Robinson, How to Taste: A Guide to Enjoying Wine, extremely useful. It is very easy to follow along as a “beginner” who wants to learn more. She also wrote The World Atlas of Wine.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 10:54 am to Hat Tricks
The wine nerds who work at boutique wine shops just waiting for you to just ask them about wine


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