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Getting into competition bbq
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:22 pm
Anybody ever entered any competitions? I'm thinking about jumping in but don't really know where to start. I don't really expect to win anything. Really just wanting to do it for the experience and to hopefully start learning a thing or two. I know there's several different organizations out there...KCBS, IBCA, BCA, Memphis BBQ Network.
Any advice or suggestions on where to stat?
Any advice or suggestions on where to stat?
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:24 pm to Hat Tricks
Look for some local church or community events. and go cook. you will learn as you go on how the competitions are held.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:30 pm to Hat Tricks
If I was doing it, I'd obviously want a rig with wheels. And some friends to share the work.
I was involved in organizing one for a blues festival years ago. A local floated the idea to me and I told him it would be a waste of time. He explained that if the bbq competition is part of a recognized competition, people would come out of the woodwork to enter. This guy had an in with the memphis in may bbq festival. If they placed, they were entered into the bigger competition.
He was right... People came from all over to enter. Was a money maker for the non-profit putting on the competition.
Find the right organization and jump in.
I was involved in organizing one for a blues festival years ago. A local floated the idea to me and I told him it would be a waste of time. He explained that if the bbq competition is part of a recognized competition, people would come out of the woodwork to enter. This guy had an in with the memphis in may bbq festival. If they placed, they were entered into the bigger competition.
He was right... People came from all over to enter. Was a money maker for the non-profit putting on the competition.
Find the right organization and jump in.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 3:33 pm to Hat Tricks
I cooked small venue competition for a while. There is a trophy or two here somewhere. Never went to Memphis, but I have a Memphis story (following) that I like to tell.
Ingredients Corp, Memphis, TN
The guys listed above (ICA) sell dry rub, blends, sauces, whatever. They are located in Memphis and a good old/old friend of mine is their blend guy (Spice Scientist - Master Blender). He really is a master at what he does. Old fart, just like me. I have known him for 20-30 years.
He tells me that every year when the Memphis in May competition comes around, many of the big (well known) guys in competition cooking drop by ICA and buy their rubs as soon as they get to town. The past (four?) winners of Memphis in May whole hog competition have used one of their blends. Not their spices - their premixed blends. My friend says they never don't ask what so-&-so bought. Of course, ICA never shares that information with the competition guys.
They ICA will sell you whatever blend you want as long as it belongs to them and is not a custom (private) blend that someone provided the recipe for.
The funny thing is most of the competition cookers they do business with purchase house blends. They may tweak them at the competition, but they buy house blends. IF they have a BBQ restaurant back home they also usually order the house blends in bulk for their restaurant too.
IMO, all of their in house rub blends are first rate and as you can see from their product list, they have many recipes to select from.
I sat here a long time trying to decide whether to share this or not, but I am getting too old to keep my secrets as if they were special. Currently, I use #02-1993. I use it on brisket, pork and chicken. I think it is best on chicken, but it is nice on all three. I buy it ten pounds at a time and give most of it away a half pound at a time to friends and people I love.
I am not an expert and will not share some things I know to be fact, but I would speculate more than one of the (commercial BBQ) places folks on TG rave about use ICA rubs on their meats before smoking them. The rubs are that good and ICA could care less if Joe's BBQ refuses to tell his customers that his secret rub comes from ICA's house blend list.
I know the bourbon rub is nice. I have some of it in the cabinet. The Chipotle 02-4509R1 is also good, with a nice chipotle pepper profile. The mesquite has nice flavor. I have tried some others (maybe 8 total) and like most of them. They do all do have different tastes - sometimes slight, but most of the time dramatically different. Sometimes I will add a little Lawry's garlic salt to mine or maybe brown sugar or a pre rub diluted honey smear to change it slightly. If you are a customer, they will adjust a blend for you (maybe 25 pound minimum for any custom blend and you are obligated to buy it if you order it).
I think they pack on 1 pound bags, but there are minimums for orders. Call them for details, because I do not order through their commercial order desk and whatever I tell you will be a lie.
If you consider yourself to be a master BBQ (or other style) Chef, they will make your blend and package it for you in Jars, cans or whatever, labeled with custom designed label or not.
If you have a liquid, they will produce (mix and bottle) it for you. The bottles are dead ringers for the Kroger Bottle shown in another post on TD today.
There are minimum quantities for everything they do and they are a big company, so don't expect your lifelong dream of having 100 bottles of your Grandpappy's sauce produced for you to sell at the craft fair to be all that important to them.
Enough. I can answer questions if there are any.
Ingredients Corp, Memphis, TN
The guys listed above (ICA) sell dry rub, blends, sauces, whatever. They are located in Memphis and a good old/old friend of mine is their blend guy (Spice Scientist - Master Blender). He really is a master at what he does. Old fart, just like me. I have known him for 20-30 years.
He tells me that every year when the Memphis in May competition comes around, many of the big (well known) guys in competition cooking drop by ICA and buy their rubs as soon as they get to town. The past (four?) winners of Memphis in May whole hog competition have used one of their blends. Not their spices - their premixed blends. My friend says they never don't ask what so-&-so bought. Of course, ICA never shares that information with the competition guys.
They ICA will sell you whatever blend you want as long as it belongs to them and is not a custom (private) blend that someone provided the recipe for.
The funny thing is most of the competition cookers they do business with purchase house blends. They may tweak them at the competition, but they buy house blends. IF they have a BBQ restaurant back home they also usually order the house blends in bulk for their restaurant too.
IMO, all of their in house rub blends are first rate and as you can see from their product list, they have many recipes to select from.
I sat here a long time trying to decide whether to share this or not, but I am getting too old to keep my secrets as if they were special. Currently, I use #02-1993. I use it on brisket, pork and chicken. I think it is best on chicken, but it is nice on all three. I buy it ten pounds at a time and give most of it away a half pound at a time to friends and people I love.
I am not an expert and will not share some things I know to be fact, but I would speculate more than one of the (commercial BBQ) places folks on TG rave about use ICA rubs on their meats before smoking them. The rubs are that good and ICA could care less if Joe's BBQ refuses to tell his customers that his secret rub comes from ICA's house blend list.
I know the bourbon rub is nice. I have some of it in the cabinet. The Chipotle 02-4509R1 is also good, with a nice chipotle pepper profile. The mesquite has nice flavor. I have tried some others (maybe 8 total) and like most of them. They do all do have different tastes - sometimes slight, but most of the time dramatically different. Sometimes I will add a little Lawry's garlic salt to mine or maybe brown sugar or a pre rub diluted honey smear to change it slightly. If you are a customer, they will adjust a blend for you (maybe 25 pound minimum for any custom blend and you are obligated to buy it if you order it).
I think they pack on 1 pound bags, but there are minimums for orders. Call them for details, because I do not order through their commercial order desk and whatever I tell you will be a lie.
If you consider yourself to be a master BBQ (or other style) Chef, they will make your blend and package it for you in Jars, cans or whatever, labeled with custom designed label or not.
If you have a liquid, they will produce (mix and bottle) it for you. The bottles are dead ringers for the Kroger Bottle shown in another post on TD today.
There are minimum quantities for everything they do and they are a big company, so don't expect your lifelong dream of having 100 bottles of your Grandpappy's sauce produced for you to sell at the craft fair to be all that important to them.
Enough. I can answer questions if there are any.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 4:46 pm to Hat Tricks
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Look for some local church or community events. and go cook. you will learn as you go on how the competitions are held.
This is a good way to start. Also, look for sanctioned events by any of the organizations that you mentioned in your area.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 4:50 pm to Hat Tricks
It's pricey and very very time consuming.
Would start by getting your own custom rig. Maybe advertise as an on site caterer and test out your skills.
Would start by getting your own custom rig. Maybe advertise as an on site caterer and test out your skills.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 6:08 pm to Hat Tricks
Posted on 9/25/17 at 6:22 pm to Hat Tricks
I’m trying to get a team together for Holy Smokes BBQ competition at saint Aloysius
On October 7
You cook for me and I’ll handle the rest ??
On October 7
You cook for me and I’ll handle the rest ??
Posted on 9/25/17 at 9:04 pm to Hat Tricks
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Getting into competition bbq
Been doing IBCA/ BCA for going on 7 years now. We only do a few a year. It is fun, but a lot of work. It's usually like $150 to enter a comp, the real money is spent on all of the meat, rubs, sauces, and supplies.
If it were me, I'd start with the associations mentioned above. It is a real standardized rule system and makes things pretty black and white. Good luck to you!
Posted on 9/26/17 at 8:19 am to Hat Tricks
Two key things to start. First, have a rig or access to a rig that works for you. You might have an awesome pit/smoker that works great for family cookouts, company events, or even tailgating, but it might not work great for competition cooking where you need to place different types of meat on for different cooking times and maybe temps. Also, I would do at least 10 test smokes before entering your first competition.
Second, plan at least 2 hours of work for every hour of on-site competition time and have some help. Yes, you can do some prep while on-site but getting supplies, food, and pre-event prep, then post event clean up takes a lot of time. Meat, wood, smoke, and hopefully good bourbon are your family during the entire weekend of most competitions.
Second, plan at least 2 hours of work for every hour of on-site competition time and have some help. Yes, you can do some prep while on-site but getting supplies, food, and pre-event prep, then post event clean up takes a lot of time. Meat, wood, smoke, and hopefully good bourbon are your family during the entire weekend of most competitions.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 10:44 am to djangochained
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I’m trying to get a team together for Holy Smokes BBQ competition at saint Aloysius On October 7 You cook for me and I’ll handle the rest ??
Bring your A game son!
Always have a blast there... good people and we've placed a good bit.
Meridian.... I'd like to look into this. Just for their own house rubs though. Have you ever ordered from there or do you just go by the joint?
This post was edited on 9/26/17 at 10:46 am
Posted on 9/26/17 at 11:32 am to MeridianDog
quote:do you have my address to send me some?????
I can answer questions if there are any.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 11:45 am to NOLALGD
Not worth it. Cook what you enjoy. Serve it to friends. Competitions are all Shams.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 2:17 pm to HebertFest08
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Meridian.... I'd like to look into this. Just for their own house rubs though. Have you ever ordered from there or do you just go by the joint?
Call them. At times in the past they have had sampler units with 4-6 cans of various blends packaged together so that you get multiple (4 ounce) samples to try. Those were nice when they had them, but I haven't seen anything in a while.
They will happily sell you anything they produce and ship to you with a credit card purchase. Their people are nice and will talk to you about what you want and what they think comes close.
Rouge
You do know I no longer live in Meridian, so don't go there asking about me. The law enforcement folks at the Sherriff's dept would know me, but not necessarily be willing to share a new address.
I have never met him, but Coater likely knows where I live. Call first. I might not respond well to an unannounced visit.
This post was edited on 9/26/17 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 9/26/17 at 2:54 pm to MeridianDog
i will not mention your name around Yazoo City either. you have my word
are the rubs more coarse ground or fine ground?
are the rubs more coarse ground or fine ground?
Posted on 9/26/17 at 3:18 pm to Hat Tricks
So I'm ok at best at BBQ, but I'm pretty damn good at boiling crawfish. As such, I've thought about getting into some crawfish cookoffs. There's a few reasons I've held off.
1) I'm a CPA who does a lot of tax consulting and planning, so I am slammed from mid-Feb through mid-April. A lot of competitions are in March and early April.
2) The cost. I'm the guy who boils a lot for friends and family already. I have three full setups (80 qt, 100 qt, 120 qt) so for the smaller 10-sack competitions, I probably would not need to buy much equipment. But buying the crawfish, the seasonings, propane, the beer (can't boil crawfish without drinking) entry fees, etc... there is a lot of cost here. Seems like most teams have business spnosors who pay all or most of that. I haven't looked much into getting sponsors. The firm I work for is not interested in that sort of thing. And my wife won't let me spend large amounts of my own money to do it - that would cut into our travel funds =)
I am actually going to do one - my first - at the end of next April. It's an annual cookoff for a politician. A local company wants to sponsor a team so they can have their name out there at the event, so I'm going to give it a shot.
1) I'm a CPA who does a lot of tax consulting and planning, so I am slammed from mid-Feb through mid-April. A lot of competitions are in March and early April.
2) The cost. I'm the guy who boils a lot for friends and family already. I have three full setups (80 qt, 100 qt, 120 qt) so for the smaller 10-sack competitions, I probably would not need to buy much equipment. But buying the crawfish, the seasonings, propane, the beer (can't boil crawfish without drinking) entry fees, etc... there is a lot of cost here. Seems like most teams have business spnosors who pay all or most of that. I haven't looked much into getting sponsors. The firm I work for is not interested in that sort of thing. And my wife won't let me spend large amounts of my own money to do it - that would cut into our travel funds =)
I am actually going to do one - my first - at the end of next April. It's an annual cookoff for a politician. A local company wants to sponsor a team so they can have their name out there at the event, so I'm going to give it a shot.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 3:23 pm to Hat Tricks
I usually do several competitions per year. If you are really interested, a better source for information would be
BBQ-Brethren
Much more knowledgable people on that forum who will help you get started and answer any questions you have.
BBQ-Brethren
Much more knowledgable people on that forum who will help you get started and answer any questions you have.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 3:28 pm to LSUFanHouston
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competition bbq
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I've thought about getting into some crawfish cookoffs

This post was edited on 9/26/17 at 3:29 pm
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