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FDB Gardeners: planting fruit trees
Posted on 2/1/16 at 11:33 pm
Posted on 2/1/16 at 11:33 pm
I've been in my home for a couple of months and I want to plant some fruit trees. I'm thinking 2-3 satsuma, 1 Meyer lemon, and 1 grapefruit. My yard is wide open with no trees at present. I have no tiller, just a shovel, a hoe, and decently strong back. What sort of prep should I do? Is now the right time to plant? How far apart do they need to be? TIA 
Posted on 2/2/16 at 5:42 am to SW2SCLA
This (Jan. and Feb.) is the correct time to plant. And you can do it with a shovel.
Head to the LSU Ag Center site for tips on the best varieties for your area, pics of how to prepare the hole, and info on spacing, fertilizer, and pruning.
Here are a few of their relevant publications that you can view online: LINK
"The Louisiana Home Orchard" and "Louisiana Home Citrus Production" look to be right up your alley.
You can also call or email their experts and ask specific questions. I've received quick responses from them before.
Head to the LSU Ag Center site for tips on the best varieties for your area, pics of how to prepare the hole, and info on spacing, fertilizer, and pruning.
Here are a few of their relevant publications that you can view online: LINK
"The Louisiana Home Orchard" and "Louisiana Home Citrus Production" look to be right up your alley.
You can also call or email their experts and ask specific questions. I've received quick responses from them before.
Posted on 2/2/16 at 6:13 am to SW2SCLA
Now is definitely the time to plant. Plant 6 feet apart or more if you want to mow. I spaced 10 so I can get a riding mower between.
You don't need a tiller you have the tools. Just make the hole about twice as wide as the root ball and deep. The chop and backfill the hole and plant so the rootball is a few inches above grade so it drains well. Water and mulch. Keep moist. You can buy root stimulator if you want but I don't fertilize until roots are established-a few months at least.
Also pick the fruit the first year as soon as it sets and discard. This allows the energy to go into the root system and not the fruit and the second year you will see much better results.
You don't need a tiller you have the tools. Just make the hole about twice as wide as the root ball and deep. The chop and backfill the hole and plant so the rootball is a few inches above grade so it drains well. Water and mulch. Keep moist. You can buy root stimulator if you want but I don't fertilize until roots are established-a few months at least.
Also pick the fruit the first year as soon as it sets and discard. This allows the energy to go into the root system and not the fruit and the second year you will see much better results.
Posted on 2/2/16 at 6:38 am to SW2SCLA
The Meyer lemon and grapefruit might have trouble surviving temps below 26. However, I have found that if a tree survives 2 or 3 years before facing lower temps, they sometimes can survive just about anything.
Posted on 2/2/16 at 6:50 am to SW2SCLA
Thought this was the beer thread. Was going to wish you lots of luck.
Good luck with the fruit trees anyway.
Good luck with the fruit trees anyway.
Posted on 2/2/16 at 7:15 am to SW2SCLA
Love my citrus trees but getting a lot of enjoyment out of some Arbequina olive trees. Now they dont produce much fruit ( unless we get a very cold winter) but they grow well and I love their leaves.
But I am in New Orleans so if you are a few clicks north, you might have more fruit.
So maybe you want to plant one olive tree for variety.
But I am in New Orleans so if you are a few clicks north, you might have more fruit.
So maybe you want to plant one olive tree for variety.
This post was edited on 2/2/16 at 7:16 am
Posted on 2/2/16 at 7:24 am to BlackenedOut
I planted a satsuma tree in late 2014, and it hasn't produced anything yet, and really hasn't grown very much. At one time, i had some very small budding satsumas, but a strong wind blew them all down. Any suggestions on revitalizing it? Just fertilize the hell out of it?
Posted on 2/2/16 at 7:31 am to BugAC
Also, anyone ever grow any Mayhaw trees?
Posted on 2/2/16 at 8:46 am to BugAC
Took me a couple years to get some really good producing citrus trees. Fertilizer and patience is my best advice, but I am no green thumb.
Posted on 2/2/16 at 8:52 am to BlackenedOut
For the first two-three years remove any fruit as soon as it appears. Let all of the trees energy go to making branches and roots. My trees are about 15' apart give plenty of room for growing and mowing. Cut off any branches that have thorns.
Posted on 2/2/16 at 9:01 am to Twenty 49
yep, those LSU Ag publications will steer you right. I've got a smallish home orchard: meyer lemon, navel, satsuma, variegated pink lemon, moro blood orange, key lime, santa teresita/feminello lemon, a brown turkey fig, and a pomegranate tree. Also four arbequina olives (no fruit yet, but it's only been two years).
Satsumas are the most cold-hardy, so if you're north of I-10, you'll fare better with those. Lemons & limes are the most tender, so plant them in a south or easterly direction, or in a place sheltered from the north wind if you can. All citrus require a few years to become productive, so patience is key. And regular fertilizing on an every-3-months schedule with a good citrus fertilizer. Broadcast fertilizer is better than spikes, as the tree's feeder roots are very near the surface all around.
No need to till up the soil or haul in garden soil. If your soil is heavy clay or in a low-lying spot, don't plant too deep or the trees will drown.
As for pest control, I've found that UltraFine or other horticultural oil spray will handle most of our common citrus pests.
Satsumas are the most cold-hardy, so if you're north of I-10, you'll fare better with those. Lemons & limes are the most tender, so plant them in a south or easterly direction, or in a place sheltered from the north wind if you can. All citrus require a few years to become productive, so patience is key. And regular fertilizing on an every-3-months schedule with a good citrus fertilizer. Broadcast fertilizer is better than spikes, as the tree's feeder roots are very near the surface all around.
No need to till up the soil or haul in garden soil. If your soil is heavy clay or in a low-lying spot, don't plant too deep or the trees will drown.
As for pest control, I've found that UltraFine or other horticultural oil spray will handle most of our common citrus pests.
Posted on 2/2/16 at 9:46 am to hungryone
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meyer lemon, navel, satsuma, variegated pink lemon, moro blood orange, key lime, santa teresita/feminello lemon, a brown turkey fig, and a pomegranate tree.

Posted on 2/2/16 at 11:21 am to BugAC
I have six mayhaw trees, but have not had any bear fruit yet. Mine are five years old and they claim it takes six years to fruit.
Posted on 2/2/16 at 11:26 am to SW2SCLA
Dig your hole the same depth as the potted tree and twice as wide and back fill when you put tree in hole. Water it in after. If those satsumas make fruit on all three trees you will not be able to give them all away. They make a shite pile on good years. Two trees will be plenty. Plant on the South side of your house in full sun if you can. This will help with the frost.
Posted on 2/2/16 at 12:04 pm to Twenty 49
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Head to the LSU Ag Center site for tips on the best varieties for your area, pics of how to prepare the hole, and info on spacing, fertilizer, and pruning.
The syndicated radio garden guy, Ron Wilson, from Ohio says that the LSU Ag Center site is the best in the South.
Posted on 2/2/16 at 12:22 pm to SW2SCLA
You also have blueberries, blackberries, apple, fig, muscadine, peach, pear, pecan, persimmon, pomegranate, plum, and raspberry. There a lots of choices if you have lots of room.
Posted on 2/2/16 at 1:17 pm to Daponch
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You also have blueberries, blackberries, apple, fig, muscadine, peach, pear, pecan, persimmon, pomegranate, plum, and raspberry. There a lots of choices if you have lots of room.
Maybe where you live. Where I live....blueberries aren't productive on the south shore (soil is not acid & not enough chilling hours). Ditto on the insufficient chilling hours for decent raspberry, apple, peach, and pear production (except for those hard cooking pears). Pomegranates are hit & miss...frequently, the humidity is too high for complete fertilization, so the fruit forms, but the interior contains no arils. It's just a woody clump.
So check your climate zone before you set your heart on certain plants.
Posted on 2/2/16 at 2:51 pm to SW2SCLA
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I'm thinking 2-3 satsuma, 1 Meyer lemon, and 1 grapefruit.
I'd substitute a Persian lime for the third Satsuma. After 5-6 years, you will have more fruit than you can give away if you have 3 satsuma trees. They will get huge.
FYI: I never pick all of the fruit off of a young tree as suggested and mine are all fine here in Lafayette (Satsuma, Meyer, Louisiana Sweet, Navel). Soil/sun are more important and it sounds like you have full sun.
Good luck, it's a fun and easy fruit to get into with very little (or no) effort needed once they are established.
Posted on 2/2/16 at 2:58 pm to hungryone
I think it's too warm and wet here in Houston for our pomegranates. Just not enough chilling hours, and with all the rain last May-June, it was just too wet for fruit.
Was concerned about the chilling hours for blackberries, but we had a decent amount last year, and it was the first year. Hoping for more this spring, but it has not been nearly as cold as last winter. They haven't even dropped their leaves.
Was concerned about the chilling hours for blackberries, but we had a decent amount last year, and it was the first year. Hoping for more this spring, but it has not been nearly as cold as last winter. They haven't even dropped their leaves.
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