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re: Experimentalism with steaks: charcoal vs gas
Posted on 9/7/20 at 3:23 pm to michael corleone
Posted on 9/7/20 at 3:23 pm to michael corleone
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Try them by burning 6 pieces of pecan or oak down to white coals. Grill them over the coals. It’s not even a fair taste test.
I was trying to be fair as possible. I could have used my pellet smoke tube on the gasser, if I wanted, but I was testing straight up gas vs charcoal.
Posted on 9/7/20 at 7:54 pm to Jax-Tiger
I hear you Jax, but if the point is figuring out optimum steak I haven’t run across a better method. The sous vide/reverse sear will over cook before it ever forms a solid crust and it will never have a wood/smoke flavor. Now, if you don’t want any wood/smoke flavor, I understand. My point is that with wood you will obtain optimum crust and smoke flavor. Honestly , I haven’t had a “gas only” person ever tell me they preferred a gas steak over wood after tasting one. Likewise, I have had several women who “don’t like smoked food” say that it’s the best steak they have ever eaten. They aren’t intense like a smoked chicken, rib or brisket. They have the perfect sweet, burned wood taste. I find it to be a very clean, natural taste as opposed to gas. Charcoal is a close second , but at some point it’s lost a good bit of its flavor.
Posted on 9/7/20 at 8:30 pm to TigerFanatic99
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How do you get your genesis over 600? Mine tops out around 475 or 500
Genesis has a 700 degree thermometer and my Gen II 335 natural gas gets up to 650-675 with SS grates. With cast iron grates it will get to 675-700.
Posted on 9/7/20 at 8:44 pm to Jax-Tiger
I get my steaks perfect by putting them on 700 degree grill for a few mins each side, then put them one one side of the grill with the heat off and cook them with indirect heat. Perfect every time.
Posted on 9/7/20 at 9:07 pm to Walt OReilly
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People don’t compare yourself to Jesus
You are nothing like him
Zappa is more like Richard Simmons
Posted on 9/7/20 at 9:21 pm to michael corleone
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The sous vide/reverse sear will over cook before it ever forms a solid crust and it will never have a wood/smoke flavor
Lol what? Put the steaks on the cool side of the grill at about 225 with a couple of pecan chunks on the coals. Pull them 15 degrees before the goal temp. Sear in a cast iron skillet with some beef tallow. Extremely easy and a perfect crust.
Posted on 9/7/20 at 9:47 pm to michael corleone
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The sous vide/reverse sear will over cook before it ever forms a solid crust and it will never have a wood/smoke flavor.
I agree with you on sous vide, but the whole point of the reverse sear it to cook it slow and then sear it for a good crust at the end. You can easily add smoke during the low temperature cook.
Posted on 9/8/20 at 7:13 am to Jax-Tiger
Charcoal always wins IMO, but F that work for 2 weeknight steaks. I'll uncover the gas everytime.
Posted on 9/8/20 at 8:56 am to TigerFanatic99
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How do you get your genesis over 600? Mine tops out around 475 or 500
Mine will heat up to 600 once the grease fire inside kicks in...
Posted on 9/8/20 at 9:04 am to Jax-Tiger
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reverse sear method
We eat rare steaks at my house.
I can not get this method down good and always end up with medium/medium well steaks
While I have a gas grill, it is never used. Charcoal is my go to for 98% of my grilling.
I still do not mind a good seared steak in a black iron skillet or griddle if done right either.
Posted on 9/8/20 at 9:34 am to michael corleone
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The sous vide/reverse sear will over cook before it ever forms a solid crust
Well that's completely false
Posted on 9/8/20 at 9:57 am to Jax-Tiger
I haven't made a steak on a grill in about a year. I got good at searing in a cast iron pan and it's a game changer.
Put skillet in oven. Heat to 500 and leave for 10+ minutes.
Pull out and put on high flame. Put a bit of oil in (high temp oil).
I used filet but you can use your meat of choice. Coat liberally in a seasoning, I prefer Cavendar's.
3 minutes on each side. Cover skillet with foil to keep the mess down.
Sear the sides if it's a big steak. Always use something 1.5" or thicker.
Put skillet in oven. Heat to 500 and leave for 10+ minutes.
Pull out and put on high flame. Put a bit of oil in (high temp oil).
I used filet but you can use your meat of choice. Coat liberally in a seasoning, I prefer Cavendar's.
3 minutes on each side. Cover skillet with foil to keep the mess down.
Sear the sides if it's a big steak. Always use something 1.5" or thicker.
Posted on 9/8/20 at 11:17 am to Zappas Stache
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Piscetarian....like jesus.
Jesus ate sheep and goat.
Posted on 9/8/20 at 11:27 am to Jax-Tiger
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The charcoal steak had a more complex flavor where you couldn't taste the salt/pepper as clearly because of the charcoal flavor.
which is precisely why I prefer charcoal. It's that flavor that makes it better. If someone is not a fan of it, then gas is clearly better.
It really all comes down to liking coal taste or not
Posted on 9/8/20 at 2:59 pm to tadman
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I got good at searing in a cast iron pan and it's a game changer.
I've done this, as well. The concept of reverse searing works the same on a cast iron skillet as a grill. You bring up the temperature slowly so the steak is cooked evenly from edge to edge. On the grill, you can get the charcoal or wood flavor during the slow portion of the cook.
You can do other things on the cast iron skillet, like adding butter/garlic to baste the steak, though. So it comes down to a personal preference.
Posted on 9/8/20 at 5:09 pm to Jax-Tiger
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On the grill, you can get the charcoal or wood flavor during the slow portion of the cook.
Why don’t you just set up your coals so that the cool side of the grill is at 225 and do the steaks there until they come to temp? Then sear them in the cast iron to maximize the surface area of the crust? Seems like the best of both worlds.
Posted on 9/9/20 at 10:15 am to Midget Death Squad
quote:I have done both for many years. Gas at home mostly, and charcoal while camping. I cannot taste anything from pure charcoal. I mean-nothing at all. Not only that, there have been times when the drippings from a choice rib eye have reduced the heat greatly on my charcoal fire. For these two reasons, I prefer gas all grilling.
The charcoal steak had a more complex flavor where you couldn't taste the salt/pepper as clearly because of the charcoal flavor.
which is precisely why I prefer charcoal. It's that flavor that makes it better. If someone is not a fan of it, then gas is clearly better.
It really all comes down to liking coal taste or not
Posted on 9/9/20 at 11:28 am to AlxTgr
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there have been times when the drippings from a choice rib eye have reduced the heat greatly on my charcoal fire
I have the same issue when doing burgers. It's frustrating. I have my chimney ready with new coals for my second round of cooking because of this
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I cannot taste anything from pure charcoal. I mean-nothing at all.
that's odd, because I can taste a distinct difference. I use the FOGO lump coals, which is quite good.
Posted on 9/9/20 at 1:57 pm to Midget Death Squad
quote:Different people taste different things. My buds are probably defective.
that's odd, because I can taste a distinct difference.
On the other hand, there are many who claim charcoal does nothing for flavor in and of itself(I happen to agree) as stated here.
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