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Does it matter what fat you use to make roux?

Posted on 11/18/20 at 10:40 am
Posted by WhiteGramblingGrad72
West Jefferson
Member since Sep 2020
403 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 10:40 am
I’ve always used vegetable oil.. does it make a difference in the end if you use butter, bacon grease, etc..? What do you use to make your roux?
Posted by xXLSUXx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Oct 2010
10307 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 10:42 am to
Only use butter or similar fats when making a light roux. They are more susceptible to burning when making a dark roux. For a dark roux stick to higher smoke point oils/fats.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78102 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 10:44 am to
absolutely.

nobody can tell me that my roux tastes as good with canola oil as it does with duck fat.

i'm now 100% on the duck fat train even though its way more expensive than whatever happens to be in your cupboard.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115966 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 10:45 am to
It does matter.

My wife uses half butter/half canola oil and it comes out great.
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
11336 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 10:47 am to
I use butter for light rouxs and avacado oil for dark rouxs. I'm not convinced somebody can tell the difference between roux oils in something like a gumbo. You're talking about 1/2 cup to 1 cup of oil (that isn't strongly flavored) in gallons of gumbo.
Posted by L Boogie
Texas
Member since Jul 2009
5050 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 10:49 am to
We used duck fat in gumbo on a lark one time and will NEVER go back. It's pricey, but since that's all we use it for, a quart will last us for a long time.

Game changer.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58856 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 10:58 am to
Things like vegetable oil, canola oil, etc., are not good for you.

From the number of downvotes, I guess a lot of you love your repurposed industrial solvents that cause inflammation and contribute to obesity and heart disease. Enjoy, I guess.
This post was edited on 11/18/20 at 1:25 pm
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83585 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 10:59 am to
Yes.

I only use lard or duck fat.
Posted by Ash Williams
South of i-10
Member since May 2009
18147 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 11:23 am to
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i'm now 100% on the duck fat train even though its way more expensive than whatever happens to be in your cupboard.



Where do you get your duck fat? online or local grocer?
Posted by WhiteGramblingGrad72
West Jefferson
Member since Sep 2020
403 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 11:28 am to
I’m going go try that next time. You can find it at the grocery store?
Posted by BMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
16277 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 11:34 am to
I like to use pork lard from my local butcher. Does it make a difference? That's probably debatable. But it works well for making a dark roux that tastes good.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78102 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 11:49 am to
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Where do you get your duck fat? online or local grocer?


kroger around here has it for like $8 but you get 1 1/2 cups out of it so 3 gumbos from 2 bottles makes it more like $5.33 per gumbo pot.

also butcher shops tend to carry it around town and its much cheaper from them. like $3-$4 for a cup.

like gris gris i like to 'sample' the roux-dough while i'm integrating it with the stock and when you taste a roux-covered onion prior to adding it you can DEFINITELY tell the difference in oils.

eta and maybe its my imagination but duck fat roux seems to get darker much faster.
This post was edited on 11/18/20 at 12:57 pm
Posted by L Boogie
Texas
Member since Jul 2009
5050 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 11:57 am to
We get ours at a specialty meat market, but there are probably groceries that carry it, I just haven't looked because we already have a source.

I bet you could at least talk to the butcher at the grocery and ask if they can get their hands on some for you.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15161 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

Only use butter or similar fats when making a light roux. They are more susceptible to burning when making a dark roux. For a dark roux stick to higher smoke point oils/fats.



This/\. I often make soups like broccoli/cheese, cream of asparagus, After The Boil Soup, and use butter to make a blond roux.

I like to fry chicken about 6 times a year and will use about 1/2 gallon of oil when I do. The next day I will strain the oil and use it with fresh flour to make a bunch of roux to jar up and put in the fridge for later use.

I've also used rendered chicken fat or pork fat to make roux and that is another level of flavor.
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
21517 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 12:36 pm to
I use bacon grease a lot for rouxs. If I'm making a gumbo, I like to brown the sausage first and use the drippings for my roux.

Light rouxs and rouxs for sauces get butter.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32526 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

Where do you get your duck fat? online or local grocer?
Fresh Market carries it.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52805 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

Only use butter or similar fats when making a light roux. They are more susceptible to burning when making a dark roux. For a dark roux stick to higher smoke point oils/fats.




This. Bacon grease has a much lower smoke point than vegetable or canola oil. I typically use vegetable or canola for my gumbos. For my smoked duck gumbo, i collect the fat drippings while smoking the ducks, and use that along with oil to get to my 1-2 cups of oil (depending on size of gumbo)
Posted by jmon
Mandeville, LA
Member since Oct 2010
8419 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 12:49 pm to
I've used the turkey fat that congeals after cooling the stock from the smoked turkey parts. Caused some foaming, but let that settle out and the roux was spot on. Be careful though, it can get away from you if the heat is too high.
Posted by JohnDoe00
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2019
814 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 2:00 pm to
Haven't used duck fat but I usually fry in it. I will have to check that out this time next week.

Now a little bacon grease ain't a bad addition either.
Posted by DomincDecoco
of no fixed abode
Member since Oct 2018
10885 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 2:20 pm to
quote:

We used duck fat in gumbo on a lark one time and will NEVER go back. It's pricey


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