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re: Ceramic Grills: BGE, Komado Joe, etc...

Posted on 4/4/17 at 11:35 am to
Posted by Crawfish From Arabi
Member since Apr 2017
317 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 11:35 am to
I like the Vision. Unlike most of the other brands that are a la cart for accessories, the Vision is pretty much assemble and cook. As far as the "hybrid", they are the only brand to own the patent on a gas insert. Plus you actually have color options. Soon, they'll be releasing their higher end line called ICON.
Posted by bossflossjr
The Great State of Louisiana
Member since Sep 2005
12284 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 11:43 am to
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Not an issue once you learn how to control the temps.

Posted by 4WHLN
Drinking at the Cottage Inn
Member since Mar 2013
7644 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 12:17 pm to
I use a mapp torch. Its been going strong for about 6 months and I use the egg couple times a week.
Posted by Coater
Madison, MS
Member since Jun 2005
33598 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 12:21 pm to
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Why a heat gun or Looflighter over a torch?


you don't have to worry about refilling it.
Posted by CowardlyLion
Member since Sep 2016
1195 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 2:22 pm to
I have a Primo XL and the looflighter. Love both of them. My brother has a Big Joe and loves his also. I don't think you can go wrong with one of the big three.
Posted by dlambe5
Prairieville
Member since Jul 2009
705 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 3:11 pm to
I own both the Primo XL and the Kamado Joe (Classic). I tend to use the Kamado Joe more because it is easier to clean out with the ash drawer that catches the ashes. Primo XL does not have an ash drawer and is a pain to clean out.

I bought the Primo XL for more surface area. If I was to do it all over again I would just pay the extra money for the Big Joe.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58632 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 4:31 pm to
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Not familiar with this.

It comes direct from Primo?

no it is after maret. LINK you might have to join to see it.
Posted by latech15
Member since Aug 2015
1291 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:33 pm to
I have a large BGE, an XL, and a stumps clone that I built. (It holds 30 butts). All use lump and very little of it. I start with a combination of a torch and a battery operated blower. I have the lootfalighter and prefer this combination.

I think that the ovals have some advantages over the round ones, but I love the warranty on the BGE. I really love the capacity of the stumps clone. You will have to google that one.

The plan that I have adopted is that every time I go buy charcoal, I buy an accessory. Lighters, grates, pizza peels, grate grabbing handles, etc. BGE makes great accessories. If they are too expensive to buy all at once.

Oh yeah. Whichever one you get, get the Digi-q.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
20353 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:58 pm to
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Kamado Joe is starting to tempt me with everything they include.


I have the Kamado Joe Classic, and I am extremely happy with it: Divide & Conquer Cook System, bigger thermometer face, ash drawer, powder coated instead of painted, price includes everything you'll need.....all for a less expensive price.

If you decide to go with the Joe, google "Kamado Joe Costco Roadshow" and look for one near you. You'll be able to buy a Classic for $780. They usually retail for about $1K. When I got mine, they also threw in a box of starter cubes ($8) and a weather cover ($45) for free, and they were selling 2 bags of lump for $40.
Posted by beHop
Landmass
Member since Jan 2012
14610 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 10:00 pm to
I have an Akorn which is a great grill. But when I upgrade it will be the Kamado Big Joe.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
20353 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 10:07 pm to
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I use Kamado Joe fire starter cubes.


Whenever I get a new box, I like to score all the cubes in half with a utility knife doubling my purchase.
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
28095 posts
Posted on 4/5/17 at 4:49 am to
You can't go wrong with any of them. It's all about what suits your needs. I have the Primo XL and a loof lighter and accessories...I love my Primo.
Posted by Mr Mom
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2012
798 posts
Posted on 4/5/17 at 7:10 am to
I've owned a Large BGE that I gave to my brother and now have a Primo Oval XL. Like everyone else has said, you really can't go wrong with any of them. Only reason I switch was for more surface area for grilling for parties. Also, it's nice being able to divide the fire box on the oval so you have a direct and indirect zone.

The gasket issue really isn't that big of a deal. My gasket has been burned up for several years now and it still doesn't leak and holds temps fine. One of these days I'll change to a nomes gasket but it really isn't any sort of priority.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
58301 posts
Posted on 4/5/17 at 7:44 am to
So, a recap. They're all good, and one doesn't really outperform the other in terms of holding temps? Long smokes is what intrigues me the most. If they all hold the temps for say 12-15 hours, then i'll be happy. So for a recap

Primo - more surface area
Komado Joe - More accessories
BGE - bigger firebox

Is that about it?
This post was edited on 4/5/17 at 7:44 am
Posted by Scooby
Member since Aug 2006
1949 posts
Posted on 4/5/17 at 8:28 am to
Anyone own a Weber summit charcoal? I've recently begun to look at this thing very hard. Seems like the cooking ability of a kamado, with the durability of a kettle.
Posted by poule deau
Member since Jan 2009
1498 posts
Posted on 4/5/17 at 8:54 am to
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The gasket issue really isn't that big of a deal. My gasket has been burned up for several years now and it still doesn't leak and holds temps fine.


To me, it makes a difference when smoking.

Lots of smoke escaping through that gasket...
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74481 posts
Posted on 4/5/17 at 9:09 am to
I have a crack in my firebox and have been gasketless for years on my Primo and haven't noticed a difference. I'm going to try the nomex gasket though
Posted by poule deau
Member since Jan 2009
1498 posts
Posted on 4/5/17 at 9:29 am to
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I have a crack in my firebox and have been gasketless for years on my Primo and haven't noticed a difference


Do you smoke with it?

If so, you must see smoke escaping with no gasket.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
20353 posts
Posted on 4/5/17 at 9:42 am to
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Primo - more surface area


For comparably priced grills, I don't think so. The oval surface is just a better, smarter, more usefully shaped area.

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Kamado Joe - More accessories


It's just that with Kamado Joe, all the essentials are included in the initial purchase price. BGE sells some of its essentials, like the plate setter and the nest ala carte, after you've already paid plenty for the grill (at least that was their MO when I was researching all this). Also, I wouldn't focus so much on accessories, as I would on which one has the better design features. Kamado Joe's Divide & Conquer is the biggest difference maker. BTW, all the after-market accessories for the BGE Large and the Kamado Joe Classic are interchangeable, as are the BGE XL and the Big Joe.

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BGE - bigger firebox



The fireboxes are the same for the comparably sized grills, but the size of the firebox is really kind of irrelevant. On any of these grills, you'll be able to do long smokes without reloading.
This post was edited on 4/5/17 at 9:48 am
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
58301 posts
Posted on 4/5/17 at 9:47 am to
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The fireboxes are the same for the comparably sized grills, but the size of the firebox is really kind of irrelevant. On any of these grills, you'll be able to do long smokes without reloading.


So really, the only choice is KJ or Primo. GBE doesn't bring anything to the table to put them over the top other than name recognition. Correct?

I'm not saying BGE is crap. My brother-in-law has one and it's incredible. But if i can get a KJ, that comes with some common sense stuff that BGE should come with as standard considering the price point, then why wouldn't i get a KJ?

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