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re: Beer: What trends/ingredients/marketing tools, etc... turn you off?
Posted on 1/10/18 at 2:25 pm to rutiger
Posted on 1/10/18 at 2:25 pm to rutiger
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Its certainly a bigger problem than peppers in beer, but i agree with boo, the restrictive laws that dont allow self distribution are a bigger problem.
I disagree. I think a bigger problem would be too many small breweries opening up producing sub par beer just trying to get in while the market for craft beer is up. It kinda gives new consumers to craft a bad taste in their mouth if their first craft beer is from x brewery, and it's a shitty ipa or wheat beer. The consumer is left with a "no thanks, i'll stick to what i know" mindset.
However we are starting to see the market correct themselves and many small breweries without the know how, want, or simply lacking of the business acumen are going out of business. Separating the wheat from the chaff, as they say.
And in terms of the big beer buying out craft breweries. I am a huge fan of Wicked Weed, that's no secret. I went there fall of 2016 and was hooked. The whole reason i got into craft beer is to drink beer that taste good. Along the way i got caught up in the "big beer bad, craft good" but the big beer guys, aren't acting nearly as shady as they used to, and i really don't care anymore as long as the beer is good. I think most of it is they realize that they aren't getting that market share back. Craft beer isn't a fad and it's hear to stay, so if you can't beat them, join them, or "invest in them and take home a share of the profits". Also, the whining from the neckbeards/hipsters over craft breweries being bought out is enough for me to turnaround to support that brewery. Especially the idiots that state the "the beer got worse" within a month of the acquisition, or even as recent as a post from yesterday, without any proof of the down spiral in quality. The melting over wicked weed is still going. Every facebook post from WW is met with "beachwood aged, clydesdales". It's quite annoying.
I'm also not too good to buy goose island sours or bourbon county here are there.
IF the beer is good, i'm going to drink it. If i can't find it or it is too expensive, then i'm going to brew it and hope to replicate it.
This post was edited on 1/10/18 at 2:26 pm
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Posted on 1/10/18 at 2:26 pm to rutiger
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that take up shelf space from true local craft breweries.
Good beers don't need shelf space. They stay in the back.
Posted on 1/10/18 at 2:44 pm to BugAC
For me - sours.
I hate them and don't understand how some of you can complain about a pepper, pumpkin, or peanut butter beer being undrinkable while you guzzle pint after pint of liquefied warheads.
I hate them and don't understand how some of you can complain about a pepper, pumpkin, or peanut butter beer being undrinkable while you guzzle pint after pint of liquefied warheads.
Posted on 1/10/18 at 2:45 pm to BugAC
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I'm also not too good to buy goose island sours or bourbon county here are there.
So i assume you shop at walmart and eat at McDonald’s, corporations that do everything they can to sabotage their competition with their muscle and force out mom and pops. Cool!
Some lite reading
This post was edited on 1/10/18 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 1/10/18 at 2:51 pm to rutiger
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So i assume you shop at walmart
Not really, but not because they are a corporation.
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and eat at McDonald’s
Again, i really don't, but it's not because they are a corporation.
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corporations that do everything they can to sabotage their competition with their muscle and force out mom and pops. Cool!
I'm willing to bet you own multiple items, and patronize many stores that are owned by the evil corporations. I hope i didn't interrupt your virtue signaling.Posted on 1/10/18 at 3:00 pm to rutiger
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Some lite reading
Nah, you go ahead and keep your confirmation bias. Anyway, i've probably read that article in the past. You aren't bringing to light anything i'm not already aware of.
And I make up my own mind based off of my own opinions.
And i'm not saying that big beer hasn't done shady shite in the past. All i'm saying is that it would be an idiotic business model, nowadays, to purchase a piece of a brewery, ruin it, then try to sell off the parts and pieces for easy money. This isn't the movie Wall Street.
Wicked Weed makes incredible sours, IMO, and some damn good clean beers as well. When that starts to slide, then i'll stop buying them.
Just as i've done with a lot of breweries. Abita, Sam Adams, Tin Roof, to name a few. I don't drink their beers anymore. Why? Because Abita sucks. Sam Adams is below average despite they are a good reason of why i got into craft beer in the first place, and Tin Roof came out the gate as a big flop and only recently have they been turning things around. I still don't fully trust what they put out, so i'll buy a single here or there. If it's worth a shite, then i'll patronize them again.
But i'm not going to spend my money on shite beer simply because "local". Plenty of local shite breweries, especially in Louisiana.
Posted on 1/10/18 at 3:13 pm to BugAC
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then i'm going to brew it and hope to replicate it.
Lulz.
Tl; dr
You sure do like to hear yourself talk, hey man whatever it takes for you to justify supporting big breweries, go for it.
Posted on 1/10/18 at 3:23 pm to rutiger
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You sure do like to hear yourself talk,
I'm quite the cunning linguist.
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hey man whatever it takes for you to justify supporting big breweries
Don't have to justify it. I drink what i like. If you don't want to buy delicious beer because of your moral stand, then by all means. Don't buy it. I completely understand your justification for it. More for me. But i'm telling you, if you are fan of sours, you are missing out on WW, assuming they ship to Louisiana come end of this month.
Posted on 1/10/18 at 3:29 pm to BugAC
Gose
Sours
Sours
Posted on 1/10/18 at 3:31 pm to LSUbase13
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while you guzzle pint after pint of liquefied warheads.
who doesn't like warheads?
This post was edited on 1/10/18 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 1/10/18 at 3:31 pm to rutiger
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Some lite reading
That was a good read... definitely helps confirm my desire to buy as little AB-InBev brewery products as possible.
Posted on 1/10/18 at 3:41 pm to BugAC
1- Sours/funk beers. Don’t like them.
2- Fruit-infused IPAs.
3- All the space pumpkin beers take up on shelves in the Fall.
4- The idea that an IPA must be awesome if it looks like a mimosa or OJ in a picture, but it must be meh if you can see clearly through it.
2- Fruit-infused IPAs.
3- All the space pumpkin beers take up on shelves in the Fall.
4- The idea that an IPA must be awesome if it looks like a mimosa or OJ in a picture, but it must be meh if you can see clearly through it.
Posted on 1/10/18 at 3:52 pm to BugAC
Microbrews in aluminum cans in six packs held in a hard plastic binder. I prefer my beer in bottles (when not on tap) and wrenching a can from that plastic housing assures one good shake of the can. I tried it once. Never again.
Posted on 1/10/18 at 4:06 pm to Treacherous Cretin
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Microbrews in aluminum cans in six packs held in a hard plastic binder.
I like cans, in fact I seek out beers in cans, but I couldn't agree more about the hard plastic six pack holder. Cardboard boxes are better and also more environment-friendly if that matters to you.
Posted on 1/10/18 at 4:17 pm to MountainTiger
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I like cans, in fact I seek out beers in cans, but I couldn't agree more about the hard plastic six pack holder. Cardboard boxes are better and also more environment-friendly if that matters to you.
I do hate those things. But i was carrying around a 6 pack of some ginger beer for some Moscow Mules, and it had the early 2000's era cheap plastic rings. 4 of the cans fell out as i was walking with it, and 2 cans burst open. Made me appreciate those new hard to get off can holders.
Posted on 1/10/18 at 4:23 pm to BugAC
Interesting words in this thread. I'm certainly a rookie to this craft beer thing. I first tried IPA about 10 years ago while in New Hampshire. Had way too many of them while at week long seminar, from their local breweries (supposedly.)
I still can't define the difference between a sour, a gose or an IPA, but could probably do it via taste. (but this thread helped)
I recently stumbled into TigerTavern in Gonzales to be pleasantly surprised to find it was much more of a beer place than a daquiri shop as I had assumed it was.
Yes, I like sweets so enjoyed a Corova? peanut butter beer, a Wells banana bread, and a few more.
For the last 2 weeks I've really been enjoying the Tin Roof Coffee Porter that I've been getting store bought. I'm hoping I get over that soon, the $ and calories can't be healthy.
I like IPA's, but don't really get the hopped up versions of these. What's the goal there?
Been purchasing at Rouses and Albertson's in south BR/Pville/Gonzales. Other suggestions to shop for selection in that area?
I still can't define the difference between a sour, a gose or an IPA, but could probably do it via taste. (but this thread helped)
I recently stumbled into TigerTavern in Gonzales to be pleasantly surprised to find it was much more of a beer place than a daquiri shop as I had assumed it was.
Yes, I like sweets so enjoyed a Corova? peanut butter beer, a Wells banana bread, and a few more.
For the last 2 weeks I've really been enjoying the Tin Roof Coffee Porter that I've been getting store bought. I'm hoping I get over that soon, the $ and calories can't be healthy.
I like IPA's, but don't really get the hopped up versions of these. What's the goal there?
Been purchasing at Rouses and Albertson's in south BR/Pville/Gonzales. Other suggestions to shop for selection in that area?
Posted on 1/10/18 at 4:28 pm to Grassy1
i don't really get milshake IPAs. There are some that I have enjoyed, but I find it strange that so many of the same people who will complain of an IPA being to sweet from the malt will fall all over themselves to drink an IPA that has literally had milk sugar added to it
This post was edited on 1/10/18 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 1/10/18 at 4:34 pm to BugAC
Nitro. I've never had a beer poured on nitro that was better than had it been on CO2. Sure, it looks cool in the glass when you pour it, then that's it.
Milkshake IPAs. I've only had a few, but they seem to mute the best part about IPAs, the hops. That just doesn't work for me.
Waiting in line for beer. I'm just not gonna do it. If someone else wants to wait in said line and has no problem grabbing some for me, great. But I'm not waiting hours in line to buy beer that I have no clue will be worth it or not. Or even beer that I do know is worth buying.
Milkshake IPAs. I've only had a few, but they seem to mute the best part about IPAs, the hops. That just doesn't work for me.
Waiting in line for beer. I'm just not gonna do it. If someone else wants to wait in said line and has no problem grabbing some for me, great. But I'm not waiting hours in line to buy beer that I have no clue will be worth it or not. Or even beer that I do know is worth buying.
Posted on 1/10/18 at 4:38 pm to Gnar Cat21
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I find it strange that so many of the same people who will complain of an IPA being to sweet from the malt will fall all over themselves to drink an IPA that has literally had milk sugar added to it
But it looks good in a picture! Drinking with one’s eyes.
Posted on 1/10/18 at 4:44 pm to BMoney
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Waiting in line for beer.
This is a big thing for me... I’ve done it in past but I don’t think I would these days. I’m sure there’s some exceptions like maybe cantillon.
I also have kinda gotten burnt out for the “rare beer” hunt. Like others have said there’s a segment of beer nerds who think rare always means good. There’s so much good stuff in the shelves days that it’s not worth it... even though I am guilty of passing over good stuff all the time
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