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re: Beer Discussion: Growing tired of NEIPA's

Posted on 11/20/17 at 10:23 am to
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 10:23 am to
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Ever tried to brew an NEIPA with a more balanced chloride/sulfate ratio and lower on the oats? Yet still maintain the biotrans hop and dry hopping techniques?


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Posted by USEyourCURDS
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 10:24 am to
My last IPA I did close to a 1:1 ratio and added a small amount of columbus at the beginning of the boil. Had plenty of juice and a little bite on it. I can’t remember if you tried it or not.
Posted by TH03
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 10:26 am to
No but I found a place close that has it. I’ll check it out. Need to go to malai kitchen too. They have one right now.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 10:29 am to
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GRTiger


Sorry, wasn't trying to sound like a beer nerd, but he understood what i was talking about.
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 10:37 am to
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SpindleTap


Had their stout the other day. It’s fantastic
Posted by Panny Crickets
Fort Worth, TX
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 10:39 am to
Thanks for the Malai Kitchen reminder.
Posted by BMoney
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 10:40 am to
quote:

Ever tried to brew an NEIPA with a more balanced chloride/sulfate ratio and lower on the oats? Yet still maintain the biotrans hop and dry hopping techniques?

That's my plan on the next one, also changing up the yeast too. Probably changing too much at one time to be able to tell the difference maker, but we'll see.


I just kegged my most recent hoppy beers on Saturday, and drank a couple pints of both yesterday. Lots of experimental stuff going on in them.

Beer 1:



Golden Promise plus some white wheat and a touch of carawheat with S-04 English yeast. Used 3ml of Hopshots for bittering, then 1oz each of Citra and Eukanot cryohops at flameout. Dry hopped with 1oz each Citra, Eukanot and Mosaic cryohops. Used 2:1 ratio of calcium chloride to gypsum. Surprised that it's not hazier, but it doesn't bother me at all. Smells and tastes great.

Beer 2:



All pilsner and carapils with 4oz crystal 40 for color. 7ml of Hopshot for bittering, then 1oz each Citra, Amarillo and Centennial hops at 10 minutes and flameout. Dry hopped with 2oz each Citra and Amarillo, then added 1ml steam distilled Chinook hop oil at kegging. US-05 yeast. Used 2:1 gypsum to calcium chloride. Was hoping for more of a West Coast IPA. This one is hazier than the pale ale, but it does have more of that classic West Coast flavor. More bitterness for sure, but I enjoy it.

All in all, I'm really happy with both beers. Will definitely use the cryohops more. It certainly improved my yield. The double brew day allowed me to split up the 10ml syringe of Hopshot between the 2 beers, so that was nice.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 10:42 am to
No worries, I enjoy reading stuff like that, even if it makes me cross-eyed sometimes.

Plus I love that pic, and it seemed apropos.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 10:48 am to
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Golden Promise


This was another alteration i am making. I'll post my recipe in the homebrew thread.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 10:54 am to
I enjoy NEIPAs, but it's just another beer style to me. Variety is the spice of life - except pumpkin beers. Those are terrible and should not exist.

Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24741 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 11:16 am to
Oregon was a little behind in the haze craze, in part, because the NW style is Oregon's style, and I don't think brewers in this area thought of the NEIPA as a legitimate IPA.

Now we're catching up, and I worry that trditional IPAs are getting lost in the rush to make the hazy IPAs. The less bitter NE style does attract a lot of people who wouldn't normally drink IPAs.

Things I want to note:

1.) Just because a beer looks like OJ doesn't make it a juice bomb, nor does it make it a great beer Some hazy beers taste more traditional - Hair of the Dog has been making Blue Dot for at least 10 years. It was and is a great beer.

2.) NEIPAs seem to be easier to drink, and the poorly made ones seem to be more bland, where as a poorly made tradional IPA may either be a malty mess or, on the other extreme, be way too bitter. This makes the NEIPA less risky. Again, this is my experience.

3.) IMO, there is more difference between an NWIPA and an NEIPA, than there is between a PA and an IPA. Or a stout and a porter, for that matter. The home brewers may disagree, but I'm speaking stricly from a taste, aroma, and mouthfeel pov. It's good to see that it is beer in recognition as it's own style, rather than being lumped into the "American IPA" category.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24741 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 11:20 am to
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pumpkin beers. Those are terrible and should not exist.


I tend to agree, but I think there are some that I enjoy in small doses. I think pumpkin beers should come in 8 oz bottles, which are the perfect size for sharing a pumpkin beer with a friend.
Posted by buffbraz
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 11:33 am to
quote:

Salmon


When was the last batch of G&G? Haven't seen any in a while here on the northshore. I will be in Shreveport for xmas, hopefully there will be some then.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 11:37 am to
Just released a new batch last week

Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 11:44 am to
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Thanks for the Malai Kitchen reminder


They don't have NEIPA on tap all the time. When they do tap it, it last about 5 days tops.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 11:53 am to
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I just kegged my most recent hoppy beers on Saturday


So, what are you up to later this week?
Posted by GRTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 11:54 am to
Had the newest release at CBD last week. It was fantastic.
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 12:03 pm to
I think some of the breweries have gone over board with the haze. A nice haze makes for a good mouthfeel. Some are a cloudy mess which makes you feel like you are drinking a loaf of bread. Some of Jucifer’s batches are guilty of this.
Posted by Barracuda
Jonesborough, TN
Member since Oct 2012
536 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 12:50 pm to
Im just now getting into them because of availability where I live. But, my favorite style of beer yet (by far). I'm sure it will change one day, but I don't see that happening any time soon. The reduced bitterness from the WCIPAS is what gets me. In reality I'll drink any beer if its good. I had several good Goses in Asheville this weekend.
This post was edited on 11/20/17 at 12:52 pm
Posted by TheLegend
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 1:06 pm to
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Just released a new batch last week

Do they still have some left at the source?
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