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Beer Discussion: Growing tired of NEIPA's

Posted on 11/20/17 at 9:47 am
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 9:47 am
I've been a fan of NEIPA's since i had my first one (heady topper) a few years back. I used to love the mouthfeel and juiciness to them, and the incredible aroma. However, as of late, i'm growing tired of NEIPA's. I find myself going back to more of the classic West Coast style IPA's, such as Ballast Point Sculpin, Lagunitas Hop Stoopid, etc... I'm no longer a fan of a heavy mouthfeel saturated with spice. Maybe it's because quality of this style has gone down, or maybe it's because we have many choices now available, but i just don't find them as enjoyable as i used to. I recently had Parish Nova Vert and DDH Blood Orange Envie. They just seem a little too heavy handed on the mouthfeel component to where it masks aroma and flavor. While both are good, something seems to be lacking, IMO.
A couple months back, while i was in Houston, i had probably the best NEIPA i've ever had at Whole Foods on Post Oak. It was their hop explorer 12. It seemed to reduce the heavy mouthfeel that is so prevalent nowadays, yet somehow accentuate the hop aroma and flavor. Since that day, everything else just seems to pale in comparison.

What are your thoughts regarding NEIPA's? Do you find yourself occasionally reaching back for west coast styles, or do you still search out for juice?
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104468 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 9:49 am to
I am not tired of NE IPAs.

I also still enjoy traditional IPAs.

It turns out, I like beer.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 9:50 am to
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Growing tired of NEIPA's


As someone who has limited access to them, GFY
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
58284 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 9:51 am to
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As someone who has limited access to them, GFY




I think that's part of the reason i find myself going back to West coast styles lately. I typically have envie or ghost or whatever parish iteration in my fridge at all times, but for my tastes, i find the heavy mouthfeel is starting to wear on me.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 9:55 am to
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I typically have envie or ghost or whatever parish iteration in my fridge at all times, but for my tastes, i find the heavy mouthfeel is starting to wear on me.


Send them up to me
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
58284 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 9:57 am to
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Dallas


Deep Ellum doesn't make anything hazy? On the plus side, y'all do have collective brewing.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86726 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 9:57 am to
I also find myself craving the more traditional IPAs lately.

It’s why I drink so much G&G, as it isn’t just a juice bomb, but has some of the bitterness that I crave.

Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 9:59 am to
It’s always good to mix it up, but at the end of the day a good NEIPA will always be my favorite.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 10:03 am to
No and I’m not a fan of deep ellum.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 10:04 am to
I love the NEIPA style. I enjoy a really well-balanced west coast style, but I don't think I'll ever get tired of the juice...It's just right up my alley. I love the flavor of the hops being used nowadays, but not a big fan of bitter flavors.. so the big, bold west cost bitterness was never my favorite.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
58284 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 10:04 am to
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It’s always good to mix it up


Agree

quote:

but at the end of the day a good NEIPA will always be my favorite.




I think i'm just looking for a better NEIPA. One that cuts back on the mouthfeel a bit, but still follows the same hopping practices. Currently putting together a recipe to do just that. We'll see how it turns out.
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
102368 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 10:05 am to
Fan of both. Don't think that will ever change. Enough access to make choices on what type of beer I want to drink.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
Member since Aug 2004
16527 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 10:05 am to
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What are your thoughts regarding NEIPA's?


I like them

quote:

Do you find yourself occasionally reaching back for west coast styles, or do you still search out for juice?


of course. I like them too.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71840 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 10:11 am to
Houston Haze from SpindleTap in Houston has struck a great balance of hazy, juicy NEIPA style while still retaining a decent backend hop bite and crisper mouthfeel.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
111640 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 10:12 am to
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It’s always good to mix it up, but at the end of the day a good NEIPA will always be my favorite.



It's weird that someone can say this about a style of beer that basically didn't exist until 4 years ago or so.

I like them a lot too, by the way, but can sort of appreciate the point of the OP as well.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
58284 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 10:13 am to
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I love the NEIPA style. I enjoy a really well-balanced west coast style, but I don't think I'll ever get tired of the juice...It's just right up my alley. I love the flavor of the hops being used nowadays, but not a big fan of bitter flavors.


I'm not huge on the bitterness either. Just wish for a more balanced NEIPA. Less mouthfeel, same hopping techniques.
Posted by BMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
16846 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 10:15 am to
I like lots of hop flavor and aroma. Whether that's in a hazy beer, or a clear beer, I don't care. I do find myself craving beers with a little more back end bitterness these days. For example, I like Gnarly Barley Brightside much more than Jucifer because there's more pop to it on the palate. Some of the newer hoppy beers are little more than hop tea. I want that huge hop aroma and flavor, but I also want to feel like I'm drinking a beer.
Posted by Panny Crickets
Fort Worth, TX
Member since Sep 2008
5596 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 10:17 am to
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As someone who has limited access to them


Have you had any of the Manhattan Project NEIPA in the DFW area? Pretty damn good.
Posted by Panny Crickets
Fort Worth, TX
Member since Sep 2008
5596 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 10:18 am to
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collective brewing


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in FW


Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
58284 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 10:20 am to
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BMoney


Ever tried to brew an NEIPA with a more balanced chloride/sulfate ratio and lower on the oats? Yet still maintain the biotrans hop and dry hopping techniques?

That's my plan on the next one, also changing up the yeast too. Probably changing too much at one time to be able to tell the difference maker, but we'll see.
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