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re: Abita Beer: Most overrated/underrated

Posted on 8/26/13 at 9:02 am to
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57856 posts
Posted on 8/26/13 at 9:02 am to
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I lol at all you nola dbags hating on Abita.


It's not hating when a brewery makes majority shite beer. I'm not from NOLA, by the way, and am extremely disappointed with Abita.

Right now, there is a craft beer explosion. Props to abita for being around longer than most craft breweries in the US, and for being based in Louisiana and being the 16th largest brewery.

Where they get bad marks is the beer itself.

While their beer serves a niche, in the world of craft beer, it is extremely sub par. Right now, the country is popping up with breweries that are making outstanding, inventive beers. Abita is not doing anything special.

Their amber is a decent lager, but it is pretty boring. Their IPA, which there are many good ones out there, sucks. It is probably the worst ipa available. Their strawberry is very meh, but it's a fruit beer so it's not very groundbreaking. Their pecan harvest is awful. Satsuma is awful, lemon wheat is awful, mardi gras bock is awful.

Any time Abita comes out with a "new" beer, it's just the same wheat lager formula, but they throw a new fruit in it. THat is not creativity. That is laziness.

Abita is in no danger of going out of business. They market their beers as what they are, nothing extrordinary, and benefit from being in a state that doesn't really know what good beer is. Louisiana is still a bud/miller/coors state. The residents aren't familiar with good craft beer, and thats fine. But that is also, exactly who abita caters too.

So when we beer "nerds" voice our concerns over Abita's new "insert fruit" wheat ale, a big sigh is let out in the craft beer community. Because they have the capital, and the facilities to create truly great beers, but they simply just won't do it.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57856 posts
Posted on 8/26/13 at 9:04 am to
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I can't drink 12 Abita ambers.
But I can knock out 12 Abita lights... That's the point


That is exactly the point. You don't drink for taste, you drink for quantity. Why even bother spending the extra money on abita, when you can go pick up a 24 pack of natty ice for the price of a 6 pack.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61723 posts
Posted on 8/26/13 at 9:07 am to
It's been discussed 900 times around here. Very few people hate Abita.
We thank Abita for starting the craft beer movement in La and I still support them. Drank Andygator and amber yesterday.

But the fact is, they very much do produce alot of boring beer that is mostly overrated. They are a mini budwieser type of operation. They are run by bean counters who only care about maximizing profits and keeping things average. You have almost nobody there it seems who is truly passionate about the beer itself.

They also were said to have tried some shady shite in trying to keep some other local beers off the taps in south La by strong arming some of the bars and restaurants.

Sorry if this kind of stuff is a little too much for your brain to handle, but these are the facts.
This post was edited on 8/26/13 at 9:11 am
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 8/26/13 at 9:10 am to
No during an all day event, such as tailgating for example I'm not drinking for taste.
That's why I can't/don't have 12 ambers.
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the extra money on Abita

Because I'm not poor and I like Abita?
Plus I look cooler with one in my hand.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61723 posts
Posted on 8/26/13 at 9:12 am to
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BugAC


Excellent summary.
Just go ahead and save this for the once a week reply needed with the likes of tigerlee show up to share their wisdom about why we are wrong about the awesomeness that abita is.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57856 posts
Posted on 8/26/13 at 9:14 am to
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TIGRLEE


and did you skip the post before that one that i made?
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13874 posts
Posted on 8/26/13 at 9:14 am to
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It is probably the worst ipa available


This award actually goes to Amnesia IPA. But Jockimo is in the running.

I agree with the overall sentiments. Overall, they don't brew many interesting beers. You would think they would step up their game with the craft beer explosion.

That said, turbodog is probably the most underrated.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57856 posts
Posted on 8/26/13 at 9:17 am to
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Overall, they don't brew many interesting beers. You would think they would step up their game with the craft beer explosion.


The only beers they brew that are interesting are in their select series. And their best one, oyster stout, isnt' even their own recipe. Then, they went and completely sold out, and made their last select, a fricking stronger strawberry. They basically used the exact same model for making their fruit beers, and applied it to their once good standard of beers. It's just laziness. Plain laziness on their part.

And, when asked if they will ever bottle their select series, they said they've thought about it, but won't really consider it until 2016. Seems like they are hoping the craft explosion dies off before then. They are simply a disapointment.
This post was edited on 8/26/13 at 9:18 am
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61723 posts
Posted on 8/26/13 at 9:18 am to
I was at NOLA Brewery on Saturday for a private tour and drinking event. Those people are great to talk to and are doing some great things.

Parish has been getting better. With Chafuncta and the other small operation on the northshore, Abita better step up their game soon. Hell at least do more experiental stuff for the local market.
I know Abita has the national stuff wrapped us for the near future as the go to La beer, but they need to start to be a little more dynamic.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57856 posts
Posted on 8/26/13 at 9:22 am to
These are their upcoming selects

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Macchiato Espresso Milk Stout (November 2013)


Could be good. Glad to see they are branching out.

quote:

Hopgator (January 2104): an extra-hoppy Andygator


Dammit. At least they are adding hops and not some fruit

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Imperator (March 2014): a black IPA

Interesting

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Triple Haze (May 2014): a popular Select from 2013


Not sure what this is. But sounds like it will be a stronger purple haze.

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Legendary Gator (August 2014): an 11% "tripel helles doppelbock"


Possibly interesting

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Naughty Quaker (October 2014): oatmeal stout


Interesting

So their select series has promise, i just wish they'd use one of their bottling lines that they are using to overproduce strawberry lager, or just replace either Jackamo, pecan harvest, light, golden, etc... and bottle select.
Posted by LSUGrad00
Member since Dec 2003
2428 posts
Posted on 8/26/13 at 9:23 am to
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Then, they went and completely sold out, and made their last select, a fricking stronger strawberry.


Don't forget that 4 out of their next 6 select series beers are just variants of existing beers.

Hopgator (January 2104): an extra-hoppy Andygator
Imperator (March 2014): a black IPA
Triple Haze (May 2014): a popular Select from 2013
Legendary Gator (August 2014): an 11% "tripel helles doppelbock"

Imperator doesn't mention Andygator, but knowing Abita I have no doubt that this will be the same as 'Hopgator' with some debittered black malt added to the recipe.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 8/26/13 at 9:23 am to
Actually I did miss the long one... Fwiw there are prob as many Abita beers I didn't like than ones I do.

I think it's important to have a good understanding of who your talking with about these products on this board.

My beer interest level may be at 4 where as yours is a 9.
Obv we aren't gonna see eye to eye on certain beers... Luckily for Abita and the whole making a profit thing they are engaged in, there are more people like me that aren't "beer snobs" as commonly referred to on here than there are.

If Abita dumped all their beers besides Amber and purple haze I wouldn't be any less a fan.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86177 posts
Posted on 8/26/13 at 9:25 am to
Nobody is asking Abita to be Cigar City or anything like that, but they could easily be on par with St. Arnold if they just tried.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57856 posts
Posted on 8/26/13 at 9:29 am to
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Luckily for Abita and the whole making a profit thing they are engaged in


There are plenty of breweries making profits off of making great beer. Abita has that capability. They just fail with the follow up, every time.

I am no less a fan of the brewery, i just hope they actually pull off the feat of making an outstanding beer. They have the capability, the equipment, the money, the capacity to brew something great. They just refuse to do it. I would much rather go to the store and buy a bomber, or 6 pack of abita and put in my fridge, but they don't produce anything i want to drink. I'd rather support local when i can, but they really make it hard for me, and other craft drinkers.
Posted by Ranger198
Member since Oct 2012
794 posts
Posted on 8/26/13 at 9:40 am to
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overrated: strawberry
underrated: amber


This. Amber is prob my fav beer of theirs. I do not drink Abita that much though.
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
12856 posts
Posted on 8/26/13 at 9:49 am to
I find it interesting in my travels that "beer snobs" further away from LA seem to hold Abita in higher regard. Novelty I guess, but I do think some on this board are a little overly harsh.

That said I actually really like AnyGator, Amber and Turbodog. Much of their beer is lacking.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61723 posts
Posted on 8/26/13 at 9:54 am to
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I find it interesting in my travels that "beer snobs" further away from LA seem to hold Abita in higher regard


I doubt the real beer geeks do. If you can find some blogs and such from beer lovers out of state that really promote Abita, I would love to see it.

I do agree that many average beer folks would probably like Abita. Abita markets well and lots of people like La products. I have no problem with that.
Posted by MillerMan
West U, Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2010
6514 posts
Posted on 8/26/13 at 10:28 am to
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It's all overrated
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87389 posts
Posted on 8/26/13 at 11:18 am to
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Overrated: Purple Haze
Underrated: Satsuma Harvest
Switch these for me.
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
10147 posts
Posted on 8/26/13 at 11:19 am to
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further away from LA seem to hold Abita in higher regard


The same could be said for those of us here who tend to look for Yuengling, Dogfish Head and Fat Tire (only recently receiving)..People who have these as their common beers may call them overrated, etc.

There is a point here I hope to get across..
This post was edited on 8/26/13 at 11:23 am
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