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re: Why are gay people losing their minds on social media?

Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:40 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:40 pm to
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Seriously, what the frick is this?

a narrative

one that was flatly rejected yesterday and they're doubling down on the rhetoric as a sign of their oppression
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:40 pm to
I think the fear has less to do with Trump and his specific views, and more to do with the GOP itself, and how it's handled LGBT issues (not well, from the perspective of the LGBT community).

That, and the SCOTUS thing.
Posted by tigersbh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:40 pm to
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I believe he said something in regards to gay marriage. I really hope the GOP doesnt go down that road - the backlash will kill any momentum.


I doubt they will. The Supreme Court has spoken. They would have to propose an amendment and it would never pass.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:41 pm to
We don't carry if you marry a dude. That's just the far religious right. The rest of us don't really care. Soak all the corks you guys want.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101390 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:41 pm to
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trump is going to get to nominate several judges, and they will be conservative. they could overturn gay marriage.



Seems rather freaking attenuated for the sort of meltdowns I'm seeing but, whatever, I guess.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:41 pm to
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I think the fear has less to do with Trump and his specific views, and more to do with the GOP itself, and how it's handled LGBT issues

and this literally makes no sense

Obama ran in 2008 against gay marriage. HRC was against gay marriage then, too

she only switched like a year ago

where is the vitriol towards their candidates?
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37263 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:43 pm to
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Obergefel isn't changing. Period.

And Trump has always been very pro-Gay.



This. The outrage is ridiculous.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:44 pm to
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and more to do with the GOP itself,


Well they are little pussy babies. Did they honestly think the GOP would never win the Presidency again?

Tell them to get a fricking grip.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:45 pm to
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Well they are little pussy babies. Did they honestly think the GOP would never win the Presidency again?

yes

and on that same note, one of the things about Trump and the sexism/racist allegations is that the electorate had kind of figured out that NO MATTER WHO THE NOMINEE IS, they will get those labels. this is the Bill Maher "crying wolf" shite that unfolded in real time. it's been pushed too far
Posted by Lg
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:45 pm to
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i doubt the GOP is that suicidal



It wouldn't have anything to do with the GOP or Trump other than confirming said justices.
Posted by Layabout
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:45 pm to
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anti gay agenda of the Trump platform

Trump has been all over the map on gay rights, including promising to appoint SC justices to overturn gay marriage. Is it any wonder that gays distrust him?
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:45 pm to
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Seems rather freaking attenuated for the sort of meltdowns I'm seeing but, whatever, I guess.


I have seen several melts that suggest exactly this on my facebook feed. I haven't really seen others.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:46 pm to
In addition, the country has pretty overwhelmingly either accepted Gay Marriage or said "we don't fricking care".

It wouldn't change, and even if it did, the vast, vast, vast majority of states would enact legislation to uphold gay marriage within those states.

It should have been decided on Equal Protection anyway.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:46 pm to
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Trump has been all over the map on gay rights

sounds like Obama and Hillary
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:47 pm to
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including promising to appoint SC justices to overturn gay marriage


Link?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:47 pm to
the fact that Hillary was not called to task on her anti-gay sentiments shows you how much the major media shapes national opinions
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:48 pm to
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where is the vitriol towards their candidates?


Time piece on Pense
Indiana Gov. Mike Pence, Donald Trump’s running mate, attracted national attention last year when he signed a religious freedom law that members of the LGBT community said could worsen discrimination against them.

After criticism from the business community, Pence signed an amendment to the law intended to protect gays and lesbians.

But it was not his first brush with criticism from the LGBT community. A self-described “Christian, a conservative and a Republican, in that order,” the former member of Congress was a prominent conservative figure in battles over marriage equality and equal rights in the last decade.
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Here are some of the statements and positions Pence had has related to LGBT issues:

He said gay couples signaled ‘societal collapse’
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He opposed a law that would prohibit discrimination against LGBT people in the workplace
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He opposed the repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell
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He rejected the Obama administration directive on transgender bathrooms
This post was edited on 11/9/16 at 3:53 pm
Posted by Putty
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:48 pm to
Apparently the propaganda machine told gay people he promised to repeal the marriage equality act, which he never did.

Sheep say baaaaa
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:48 pm to
Mental illness, weak minds, fragile worldview.
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
5261 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:48 pm to
OK. Finally got a valid response.
Honestly, it makes sense...


Here is her response:

The official platform of the Republican Party for 2016 states explicitly that they want to overturn the SCOTUS decision to legalize same sex marriage. It also wants to do away with transgender protections to use the facilities that corresponds with their gender identity. This is Trump's party therefore this is Trump's platform.

He himself has specifically said that SCOTUS was wrong and the same sex marriage decision should have been left up to the states and during the Iowa caucuses he pledged to appoint justices that would overturn this decision.

He also fully endorses HB2 in North Carolina which in my opinion is a travesty of petty finger pointing and discrimination.

His chosen running mate is Mike Pence who thinks sexuality is a choice, supports gay conversion therapy, and opposed the repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell.

Here's a link to a CNN article that speaks to these issues and includes sources and video clips of his quotes one of which is "I'm for traditional marriage."
LINK

So yes, our LGBTQ friends, are in my opinion, rightfully offended and frightened that someone who has openly expressed a desire to invalidate their love and take away their right to be a family is now the leader of this country.

I've never wanted to be wrong more in my life than I want to be wrong about Trump but...it's not looking good.
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