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re: Realistically - what could have been done post-2019 to prevent where we are?

Posted on 10/14/21 at 3:19 pm to
Posted by Eat Your Crow
caught beneath the landslide
Member since May 2017
9190 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 3:19 pm to
I keep wondering where we would be this season if the 2020 season had been cancelled.

I doubt we would have nearly as many fake injury opt-outs. Brennan is probably our starting quarterback right now.

Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 10/14/21 at 3:20 pm to
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Realistically - what could have been done post-2019 to prevent where we are?


Pay Aranda and Brady 6 million each with co titles. Joe Brady in booth, Aranda with field head set. Let Ed O go run the beaches and tail.
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4014 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 3:28 pm to
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Brady and Burrow covered up much of the line deficiencies. If O would’ve done more legwork other than trust Slinger could replicate the playbook and think any coordinator could run the d.


Again stop with the 2019 OL was not good. Cushenberry and D. Lewis were drafted in the 2020 draft. Both in 2020 started all 16 games for Denver and Seattle, respectively. Sadiq was also drafted in the 2020 draft (he played 9 of LSU's 15 games; serving a 6 game suspension for selected games). Charles made 1 start as a rookie and played in another before having an injury last year.

S0 3 guys off the LSU 2019 OL were in the NFL and 2020 and all of them made their respective teams.

The OL deficiencies of the 2021 team are more to do with the 2018 to 2020 Coach O recruiting classes. Too many misses in terms of evaluation or not developing as players.
Posted by charlestonchief
Member since Sep 2006
590 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 3:31 pm to
Better talent evaluation?
Posted by LSU2a
SWLA to Dallas
Member since Aug 2012
2853 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 3:37 pm to
Instead of overpaying Orgeron buy better coordinators by paying them $4M each. Everyone has a price.

Orgeron $4.5M
OC……..$4M
DC……..$4M
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 3:38 pm to
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what could have been done post-2019 to prevent where we are?

Terminate Ed's contract instead of extend it.
Posted by joe2679
Member since Nov 2015
626 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 3:54 pm to
Recruited and landed top Oline prospects for one. Two, stay far away from Bo Pelini. Three, hire proven and skillful offensive coordinator. Four, replace the running backs coach with a proven RB coach. Five, replace Oline Coordinator with a proven Oline Coordinator. Six, stay out of politics....away from that woke culture.
Posted by ColdTurkey
Where the Buffalo roam...
Member since Nov 2019
7666 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 3:59 pm to
Given Joe Brady like 4 Mil a year, given Aranda the same.
Posted by DashRipRock
Banana Republic
Member since Jul 2021
1439 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 4:02 pm to
fricking Biden.
Posted by pevetohead
lurking behind sonic
Member since Apr 2017
2633 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 4:17 pm to
With losing all of the players, coordinators, and covid on the horizon it was going to be a tough road regardless. But when O made the two horrific hires of Bo Pelini and Scott Linehan to replace Brady and Aranda, he pretty much sealed his fate. Everything we are seeing now and last year could have been prevented had he hired the best coordinators, what he promised to do when he was announced as head coach in 2017, and he fell flat on his face.
Posted by LSUsuperfresh
Member since Oct 2010
8338 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 4:18 pm to
Hire top coordinators who can recruit and drive a committed culture
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16665 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 11:38 pm to
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When you have essentially 19 guys who were major contributors and both your DC and a your key passing game coordinators move on all at the same time, it does create a huge vacuum to fill. Couple that with Covid and the opt outs and your mountain gets higher and steeper


Much of this is legit. There was gonna be a drop-off. Losing Brennan was big too.

But a lot was self-inflicted. Ed was lazy (still is) and didn't interview Pelini. After here, Pelini let him know that we didn't have the personnel to play 4 on the DL. And we did it anyway. That's all one big bag of bad decision making.
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
12775 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 11:40 pm to
Recruit better offensively linemen.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22798 posts
Posted on 10/15/21 at 12:39 am to
Recruit a line.
Posted by rob62
Member since Sep 2016
5165 posts
Posted on 10/15/21 at 5:27 am to
Here’s a start.

Stop chasing pussy after his divorce and focus on his damn job. Orgeron put nothing into his job and pretty much said so when he admitted he made some hires without even interviewing the Coaches.
Who the fuk does that if they care at all?
Posted by Soft_Parade
North Carolina Coast
Member since Sep 2005
2505 posts
Posted on 10/15/21 at 6:02 am to
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Not give 0 a contract extension worth 8.5 million/year. Once he got paid, his ego got too big and he started to believe that he is the main reason for 2019.
Agree 100% with the first sentence. Wait a year to see whether 2019 was the exception or the norm.

We now know it was the exception and the O we know is the O Ole Miss knows.

The financial impact to extinguish this dumpster fire would not have been as high, but there was no avoiding the fire.
This post was edited on 10/15/21 at 6:03 am
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Member since Aug 2004
45355 posts
Posted on 10/15/21 at 6:33 am to
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I think we were headed to this point one way or another eventually,


Why do you think this?

Why didn't this all happen to any other program? What made LSU different and makes you think this was inevitable?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425874 posts
Posted on 10/15/21 at 7:26 am to
1. Hire a solid DC to replace Aranda. A lot of the issues are this simple. I guarantee you if we got someone like Schuman our D would not be nearly as bad the past 2 years. Boxing himself into a 4-man front killed his options, though. There aren't that many rising DCs in CFB who use the 4-man front these days. That's how we got Bo P and Jones.

2. On offense, we weren't keeping Brady and E was likely not leaving, so once Brennan went down we were in trouble. We did fine with MB last year on offense, it's just our D was historically bad. This year, however, we needed a good, college OC. It didn't have to be "da Brady aw-fence" or anything.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18692 posts
Posted on 10/15/21 at 7:29 am to
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This was pretty much done during the season. Running to him like Miss Elizabeth every week was all for show.


By all accounts she had massive issues and was a cancer in the football ops building.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
13084 posts
Posted on 10/15/21 at 7:47 am to
Had a head coach who was more worried about winning his next national championship instead of worrying about chasing skank cooter.
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