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re: New conspiracy theory. Was grunge put together the same as boy bands in the 90's?

Posted on 9/26/21 at 2:06 am to
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
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Posted on 9/26/21 at 2:06 am to
Nirvana was formed in 1987
Posted by DaleGribble
Bend, OR
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 9/26/21 at 2:32 am to
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Lots of people in this thread be like this when it comes to the “authenticity” of grunge:



One thing's for sure. It beats the Hell out of the music that has came after it. If you aren't a Boomer or Gen X, your music is shite.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 9/26/21 at 2:38 am to
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Was grunge put together the same as boy bands in the 90's?
YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH!
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 9/26/21 at 2:43 am to
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I always laugh when grohl talks about his time in nirvana as “disco drumming as loud as I can play” because its true

Man, when he's talking to Pharell about it and he plays the drum intro to "Smells Like Teen Spirit" on his thighs and then they cut to footage of The Gap Band on stage and it's the exact same beat, it warped my fragile little mind.

So, really, grunge is just disco without matching sequined jumpsuits.
This post was edited on 9/26/21 at 2:46 am
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 9/26/21 at 3:12 am to
No. Boy bands were almost completely fabricated, strangers for the most part, hand picked by management and put together.

I don’t think that was the case with any grunge band.

And changing one’s appearance slightly to suit what’s popular is a far cry from being fabricated or fake.

So, no. Disagree.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 9/26/21 at 3:26 am to
The whole grunge scene was super depressing comparing to coming out of 70’s & 80’s rock. That being said, a lot of those bands were incredibly talented to have come from just mostly just Seattle scene. It changed music forever and killed rock ultimately. Heavy guitar and drum mixed music still haven’t recovered.
Posted by lsuguy84
CO
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Posted on 9/26/21 at 3:28 am to
If you’re asking if the producers and mixers heard the demo tapes and made a better product, yes that would be correct. Did the label piece together the band? No.
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/26/21 at 3:42 am to
Grunge was punks finally admitting that 70s rock was awesome and not the enemy.

Side 2 of My War by Black Flag, which came out in 1984, was a big deal and a huge surprise because it was their version of Black Sabbath, slowed down and heavy, and if Black Flag did something that made it cool. But Henry Rollins wrote lyrics that were more tortured and depressive than Sabbath so that pretty much started grunge.

Posted by bakersman
Shreveport
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Posted on 9/26/21 at 5:20 am to
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Some of the songs on Blood Sugar Sex Magic, most notably Under the Bridge, are “grunge-y” so it’s not any wonder how RHCP got lumped in with the Seattle scene, even though they’re from LA.


They are 1 of those bands that you can’t tie to a genre. They’re their own unique sound.

If we’re talking boy bandish rock, I’d say that it’s the rap metal in the late 90’s rather than grunge. Grudge was a good escape from the hair/glam metal. Hell, people are still out rocking Pearl Jam, Alice In Chains and such. Their are some really iconic songs from that era. You don’t heard people still bumping to limp bizkit
Posted by geaux88
Northshore, LA
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 9/26/21 at 5:33 am to
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If we’re talking boy bandish rock, I’d say that it’s the rap metal in the late 90’s


Linkin Park? That sound? (not trolling, just curious)

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Hell, people are still out rocking Pearl Jam, Alice In Chains and such.


Pearl Jam for sure was NOT a "put together" band...they made themselves for sure.

EV/Pearl Jam Biopic
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 9/26/21 at 5:34 am to
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You don’t heard people still bumping to limp bizkit


Talk shite about my g g generation
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/26/21 at 5:45 am to
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hence them getting lumped in with the Seattle scene at the same time it was breaking.



Lollapalooza got them lumped. They toured with those acts as they were blowing up nationally. They were played on the same stations.

As already mentioned. The first few bands formed pretty organically. Then yes record companies stepped in and threw flannel on everything and Doc Martens. Many did start out as hair metal bands. These guys are older than most of the guys posting in this thread. I assume. They are all in their 50’s. Or would be if they lived. Their first groups they dabbled in were more metal and older punk. They later grew into their sounds. Tunings, amps, effects, writing. It all became dark and brooding more than screwing girls.

It was a great time to be alive for your ears. Your eyes? Not so much. Not nearly the number of hot groupies. Or women dressed like sluts.
Posted by bakersman
Shreveport
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 9/26/21 at 5:51 am to
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Linkin Park? That sound? (not trolling, just curious)


I am saying that sound but not linkin park. Chester was/is a music god. They had big success and other bands came out with the same sound to copy that success. Well, I guess you can say that about every genre in music.
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 9/26/21 at 6:55 am to
Boy bands had a manager behind them who created them. Grunge bands did not. So it’s a stupid theory.
Posted by YNWA
Member since Nov 2015
6762 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 7:03 am to
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Besides, PR manufactured Pearl Jam is certainly better than today's weepy vagina, ivory tower preaching, hypocritical, and Tom Ricketts shilling Edward Jerome Vedder and Pearl Jam.

Fun fact folks, Eddie uses his mom's maiden name as his last name.


Man. Somebody's been waiting a long time for this thread to come around. It's ok buddy. Let it out. Let it out.
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 9/26/21 at 7:10 am to
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Chester was/is a music god


No.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
34294 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 7:29 am to
The radio and MTV still picked what we consumed
Posted by bgtiger
Prairieville
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 9/26/21 at 7:52 am to
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No, but Alice In Chains was once a hair metal band (called “Alice ‘n Chains”) before it switched genres to grunge.


No.

Your timelines must be way off. Facelift was released in 1990. Nevermind, and the media blitz of “Grunge” didn’t take off until 1991/1992.

Facelift is not a hair metal album. Just stop talking

ETA I understand that most of, if not all of the grunge era bands were not what they ended up being when they started.

But that goes for almost every single band ever.
This post was edited on 9/26/21 at 8:17 am
Posted by bgtiger
Prairieville
Member since Dec 2004
11451 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 8:00 am to
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Truth be told, it wasn’t Nirvana hitting big in 1991 that caused everything, it was Soundgarden getting signed to a major label in 1989 that got bands like Alice N Chains and Mother Love Bone to switch their sound from glam metal to grunge.


You are so full of shite.

First of fricking all, Pearl Jam (mlb) is not the same sound as AiC, is not the same sound as Nirvana, is not the same sound as Soundgarden.

So what the frick were they all told to sound like? Grunge? Grunge is a media term and its meaning isn’t defined by the music as much as the look and outlook of some of the bands. You keep saying it as though the music is the same. You couldn’t be more wrong.
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
23982 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 8:01 am to
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Maybe that's why Kurt offed himself. He was part of a contrived boy band.


maybe it’s because he was part of the most overrated band, of all time
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